I was up last night pondering IBS of all things....
#212531 - 09/12/05 06:03 AM
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Being a "C", I have gained weight following Heathers advice and the diet has not made a marked change in my lifestyle as I had identified my triggers long ago before I even knowing there was such a thing as IBS.
My stomach is blissfully "empty" right now as I am in the middle of a cleanse(that isn't bothering me thank goodness) and I feel wonderful. I have been "going" every day....yay....and feeling no discomfort from the cleanse.
This empty feeling is real similar to feeling hungry though not exactly the same. Could it be that somehow our bodies tell us we are hungry when we really aren't hungry but just empty? Understand that I am a former anorexic (more of a control issue that a feeling/looking fat issue) and my body is programmed to enjoy feeling empty.
We all know that most "D's" are thin for obvious reasons  ...I was just curious as to how many "C's" have found themselves gaining weight since realizing they have IBS.
Your thoughts and/or experiences?
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Have a blessed day!...Rachel
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I have IBS but it doesn't have me!
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Poochibelly:
Yes, detoxing/cleansing is quite a "high" and a "total buzz."
I love the feeling, too and could stand to enjoy it until the end of my days. There is a difference, though, between feeling "cleaned out" and "knocked off your feet" with D.
Re: weight gain and ANY DIET. It's as simple as taking in excessive calories. To lose weight, your input must simply be less than your expenditure. So, it's not the diet that's to blame--or any diet, but rather personal choices and energetic "accounting." Simply decrease your input on a regular basis and you will lose weight. Do the math.
Kate.
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Kate
#212536 - 09/12/05 06:19 AM
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I am not one who has ever taken in a great deal of calories, I am still thinner than the average bear. The amount of food I eat and excercise has not changed. I think the weight gain has to do with the "make up" of the suggested food in that the number of calories I eat has gone up thought the amount of food I eat has not...starches and stuff with lots of sugar are not my friend. 
Not laying blame anywhere...that would be silly. Just wondering how others may be balancing the changes.
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Then I must be weird for a D since I am overweight. I have been a stress eater for a while. I'm not doing that anymore though. I just started this diet, so I'll have to see how I do. I have to get the exercise in, which is hard due to an injury I have.
Emily
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Again- calories in vs. calories out factor the weight gain. perhaps you should begin to monitor them a bit closer- make sure your getting enough protein to help with hunger along with those carbs and cutting out the sugary carbs maybe? just a suggestion.
just to note- I am IBS-C and im not overweight by anymeans. My mother is IBS-D and is very overweight.
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I don't have any real thoughts on the matter, except to point out that I've been D-predominant my entire life, and I've also been obese for most of my life. I *wish* being a D'er made me automatically thin! Conversely, I know some C'ers who are very thin.
Actually, I did find that Heather's diet made me gain weight, but now that I'm eating more moderately and trying to be more active, I've stabilized at what is normal for me.
What makes you gain weight is eating more calories than you burn, NOT one specific diet over another.
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I don't consume sugary carbs or even 'starchy' foods, for the record. I take in less than 1200 calories/day, easily...usually less than 1000. I predominantly only consume vegetables. Only recently have I added egg whites and some albecore tuna to my diet, simply because my bones grating against each other keeps me awake at night and it's getting quite painful to sleep. I'm hardly overweight. If anything, I have a protein phobia.
Kate.
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It's not just simply calories in minus calories out. The
calories in have to be absorbed by the small intestines.
People who's small intestines don't fully function properly
can eat a heck of a lot of calories and not gain weight.
-Bob
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I'm a D and I have been heavy nearly all my adult life - especially since IBS.
I have lost weight -- but it's only to a healthy weight... 128 - 132... I'm only 5 foot 1 -- so I'm not skin & bones by any stretch. It really is all about calories in vs calories out.
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as opposed to when I didn't know there were any rules and ate what I pleased. Hmmm....
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Have a blessed day!...Rachel
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From another C'er, I don't strictly follow this diet, but simply apply the priciples of SFS, plenty of IF and water along with supplements recommeded here that have shown proven benefit to me personally. I have actually lost about 15 pounds. To eat as many carbs as this diet would require "strictly" would cause weight gain if the calorie burn was not also increased exponentially. Just my experience.
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Bamagirl?
#212665 - 09/12/05 11:51 AM
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Augie
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Do you eat SF before the IF or do you just count your SFS as your soluble source to buffer your system before eating the IF?
I am wondering if it is necessary to take the SFS and also to eat SF before the IF.
Thanks
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~ Beth
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Cleanse
#212669 - 09/12/05 11:59 AM
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belinda
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I'm not sure what you mean by cleanse! Do you mean you are taking something to cause your body to eliminate or does it mean you are starving yourself, or does it mean both? Or does it mean something else?
To feel well as an IBS-C or IBS-D person, it's important to eat small meals often and to never let your tummy get empty. If I let my tummy get empty, I'm assured of an IBS attack!
I have been thin most of my life, both when I was IBS-C predominant and now that I am IBS-D. Although Heather's diet, and the need to have lots of SF staples (white rice, potatoes, white bread, etc.) with meals could cause some to gain weight, there shouldn't be a problem if you don't overeat and if you work out on a regular basis.
Actually, I've gained a couple of pounds, but not because the diet makes me gain, but because the diet has made me more stable than in the past. In the old days, I would lose the weight almost as soon as I gained it because I didn't know about Heather's diet and so I would get frequent IBS attacks and become very sick. If gaining a few pounds is the price of stability, it's well worth it, I think!
Please let us know what "cleanse" means!
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To eat as many carbs as this diet would require "strictly" would cause weight gain if the calorie burn was not also increased exponentially.
when i started following this diet (the strict, very-carby starting-off version) i *lost* weight. although i cut down my fruits and vegetables, which are low-calorie for the amount of food, i also cut way down on fatty foods and basically eliminated junk and snacks with no health value (though i wasn't eating a ton of those to begin with). granted, for what it takes to make you feel full, you do get more calories from a carb-heavy meal than from veggies or protein, but eating several small meals throughout the day and never getting ravenous really helps with that. i've never been able to do the several small meals thing before this, but i've been really happy and satisfied.
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Although, I have been in situations when I didn't have my acacia with me and ate a normal meal, and as long as I made reasonable choices..nothing fried, no heavy fats ect... I was fine. I'm just pretty stable right now, and as long as I don't stress out too badly about things, I do alright.
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This diet is very individual to all of us apparently. Small meals are always a best bet no matter what! Keeps you from eating so much when you do eat! After a while, we all ought to have a pretty healthy eating habit, huh? 
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Hmmmm
#212745 - 09/12/05 03:02 PM
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I think that because I have always eaten low-fat and healthy incorporating the "white stuff" is what caused me to pack on the pounds.
By cleanse...I mean a cleanse a colon cleanse. Not recommended by Heather but it actually helps me. I haven't done this in a couple of years but boy do I feel good right now.
Keep in mind that other than a stress related attack I have been stable for some time. I am familiar with the product having used it before.
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There is a difference, though, between feeling "cleaned out" and "knocked off your feet" with D.
I'll second that. Being empty from D is like a terribly achy gnawing feeling, not to mention the fact that you're totally wiped out. Ugh. Not exactly like a cleanse, unfortunately 
I've never really been overweight in my life but I did gain a bit of weight when starting the diet. BUT, that was good thing. The reason I gained weight was because I stopped eating JUST rice all day - which was the only thing that was keeping me alive/not having attacks all day before starting the diet. So yeah, I gained weight because I started eating more because there was more I knew I could eat safely. But that's kind of an obvious one
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I am very tall, 2.04 m, I used to be skinny as a kid and teenager but I started working out and eating a lot after highschool and was in perfect shape. If I eat a lot now that I have IBS I get an unpleasant full feeling, doesn't matter if it's high on fat/other triggers or not, and after that C.
I need around 500-1000 more cals to gain weight. Any suggestions to foods I can eat are greatly appreciated. I can't eat things with white flour or a white pasta. I think white rice are all right though.
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IBS-C after amoebic dysentria. Symptoms mostly after eating too much. Wanting to (re)gain weight.
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Why can't you eat white flour?
You shouldn't be eating big meals anyway - lots and lots of little meals is the way to go. And you should get plenty of protein and try to exercise.
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I agree- try 6 or 7 smaller "meals". that will keep your energy levels up, decrease chances of IBS flare-ups (if I personally eat too much in one meal i pay for it...).
Have you tried rice flour? you could make IBS friendly banana or zucchini muffins or bread with rice flour or oat flour if you can tolerate oats. Add a big glass of sor or rice milk.
smoothies are easy ways to throw lots in- milk(soy,rice), bananans, mangoes, papayas, flaxseed(ground) or acacia, other berries if you can tolerate them. even adding oats (they grind up) makes it thicker and taste yummy!
add a bit more protein if you're on the low side. incorporating some resistance training will help ensure the weight you gain is more lean mass (muscle tissues).
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Laurel, I thought they absorb nutrients which are then burned
as calories. No, eh? Thanks-Bob
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So, Kim...
#212928 - 09/13/05 08:41 AM
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Augie
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you don't eat SF in the form of food with your meals or before you IF. You use the Acacia as your personal buffer and then can eat brown rice or veggies or fruits or maybe even whole wheat breads and cereals?
Can you snack on fruits, etc without your SFS?
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Acacia is my buffer. I can't tolerate a lot of rice, brown or white for some reason. But with the Acacia preceeding a meal, I can eat whole wheat, IF or whatever. Keep in mind, foods are pretty open to me right now in my current condition. If I'm unstable, I back off some of the IF, keep fats to a minimum and push the water and exercise. I adjust my regimen depending on my stress level.
But, right now, and for several months, Acacia is my pre-meal buffer. I don't eat anything risky without it, and fruits are risky depending. I can eat an apple more safely than an orange. I can eat a pice of canteloupe safer than an apple....ect.. As a general rule, I really don't snack very much though. When I do snack, I snack safe..pretzels, a cookie, a small piece of birthday cake (things that come up unexpected like dessert at work ect...I just choose base on how stable I am - sometimes I just pass on a snack altogether if I'm iffy)
I'm not trying to be confusing. Just trying to give you enough information to hopefully be of some help. Sorry if I confused you furter.
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