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Re: Can you recommend a yeast free Bread maikko? new
      #194016 - 07/11/05 06:45 AM
Augie

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The ener-g brand has 5 grams of fat per slice. That's pretty darn high. I did visit the other sights and most of the breads look like they are too high in whole grains and seeds. Or else I missed the safe one, which is most likely this early am!

Can I ask which brand you use?

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Re: Can you recommend a yeast free Bread maikko? new
      #194064 - 07/11/05 07:57 AM
maikko

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yeah, the pacific bread company has some breads that are yeast free and not whole grain and are wheat-free. Beth, I said in the email it was vermont bread co. i meant this one, pacific bread.

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I still don't see one that is safe new
      #194073 - 07/11/05 08:07 AM
Augie

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Am I a dork or blind? This is the closest I could find and it still contains whole wheat:

YEAST-FREE SOURDOUGH WHITE BREAD-no vinegar, low fat, sugar-free
Original Sourdough Bread* (SD) 20 oz. Organically grown unbleached flour, organically grown whole wheat, filtered water, unrefined safflower oil, sea salt

Kamut is wheat free and so is spelt but those are IF I am pretty sure, so wouldn't be safe.

Am I missing something, Margaux?

which ones are yeast free, wheat free, and safe? Or just yeast free and safe?

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Re: I still don't see one that is safe new
      #194116 - 07/11/05 09:12 AM
maikko

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Ah, I see what you mean. They are all yeast and wheat free but may not all be ibs fiendly...but we can eat some IF (the ones that are not whole grain), so maybe that would be one of the times?
But even though they're wheat free, they arent gluten free. Whoops!
Even better though, I came across a better site. The only thing is you have to make some of these products yourself. But if possible, this def. looks worth trying!!!
check out this site . What do you think?

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Re: Help from a Yank please! new
      #194118 - 07/11/05 09:22 AM
lalala

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I looked through my cookbooks and you're right, Linz! While many of the sourdough starter recipes I found include yeast as an ingredient (like the commercially packaged ones I've been buying), natural starters are made by fermenting flour and water--just as you mentioned. I learn something new every day! I'll just include a passage from Joy of Cooking I found interesting:

A natural starter contains wild yeasts instead of the commercially packaged variety... Natural starters combine flour and water and allow the wild yeasts contained in the air and flour slowly to reproduce. However, wild yeast starters can be made with a variety of ingredients. Some natural sourdough starters are made with a combination of cooked or raw potatoes to which water, salt, and cornmeal or flour are added. Some use a combination of fresh or dried hops, potatoes, and cornmeal. And some use milk, yogurt, and flour....

The traditional starter begins with a small piece of dough made from flour and water. It is fed on a daily basis with fresh flour and water until the "wild" yeasts reproduce enough so that the starter can be used to make bread. During this slow fermentation process, bacteria in the starter also reproduce and cause the starter to sour.



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A somewhat confused Yank here new
      #194153 - 07/11/05 10:18 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

Quote:

I looked through my cookbooks and you're right, Linz! While many of the sourdough starter recipes I found include yeast as an ingredient (like the commercially packaged ones I've been buying), natural starters are made by fermenting flour and water--just as you mentioned. I learn something new every day! I'll just include a passage from Joy of Cooking I found interesting:

A natural starter contains wild yeasts instead of the commercially packaged variety... Natural starters combine flour and water and allow the wild yeasts contained in the air and flour slowly to reproduce. However, wild yeast starters can be made with a variety of ingredients. Some natural sourdough starters are made with a combination of cooked or raw potatoes to which water, salt, and cornmeal or flour are added. Some use a combination of fresh or dried hops, potatoes, and cornmeal. And some use milk, yogurt, and flour....

The traditional starter begins with a small piece of dough made from flour and water. It is fed on a daily basis with fresh flour and water until the "wild" yeasts reproduce enough so that the starter can be used to make bread. During this slow fermentation process, bacteria in the starter also reproduce and cause the starter to sour.






It's still yeast, though, isn't it? It's just that you're not adding the little organisms separately, choosing instead to wake them up from their sleep inside the grains where they live naturally, right? (In other words, you're not outsourcing the fermentation job. )

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Re: A somewhat confused Yank here new
      #194156 - 07/11/05 10:22 AM
lalala

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Quote:

Quote:

I looked through my cookbooks and you're right, Linz! While many of the sourdough starter recipes I found include yeast as an ingredient (like the commercially packaged ones I've been buying), natural starters are made by fermenting flour and water--just as you mentioned. I learn something new every day! I'll just include a passage from Joy of Cooking I found interesting:

A natural starter contains wild yeasts instead of the commercially packaged variety... Natural starters combine flour and water and allow the wild yeasts contained in the air and flour slowly to reproduce. However, wild yeast starters can be made with a variety of ingredients. Some natural sourdough starters are made with a combination of cooked or raw potatoes to which water, salt, and cornmeal or flour are added. Some use a combination of fresh or dried hops, potatoes, and cornmeal. And some use milk, yogurt, and flour....

The traditional starter begins with a small piece of dough made from flour and water. It is fed on a daily basis with fresh flour and water until the "wild" yeasts reproduce enough so that the starter can be used to make bread. During this slow fermentation process, bacteria in the starter also reproduce and cause the starter to sour.






It's still yeast, though, isn't it? It's just that you're not adding the little organisms separately, choosing instead to wake them up from their sleep inside the grains where they live naturally, right? (In other words, you're not outsourcing the fermentation job. ) Lol! Right!




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In Alaska new
      #194255 - 07/11/05 01:24 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
Posts: 4987
Loc: Minnesota

they are really into their sourdough. Some restaurants supposedly have sourdough that they have kept since the gold rush. I don't know if it is true. I am sorry this is unrelated!

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Re: In Alaska new
      #194335 - 07/11/05 05:30 PM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
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Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

It may be unrelated, but it's still pretty cool. I actually have my mother's recipe for sourdough starter (and the sourdough bread itself), so I don't have to rely on hand-me-down starter. In a similarly unrelated vein, my college roommate has a batch of brandied fruit I swear she's been feeding for more than 30 years.

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Well this is a mix new
      #196459 - 07/16/05 07:59 PM
Augie

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so it probably contains yeast in the mix. The web site doesn't allow you to see the ingredient listing for the product.

Do you follow a GF diet Maikko?

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