Question for the C people
#185691 - 06/11/05 10:56 AM
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Augie
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First, let me tell you I am a C person, usually! When, or if, you guys get episodes of D, do you take something for it, like Imodium or Kaopectate? Or do you let it run it's course?
I have had one major stressful week and I think that it has all escalated into a full blown D attack today. I am leery to take anything for it for fear of a rebound worse C week ahead of me. But I can't stop going this liquid diarrhea.
I need to walk to a grocery store and get some food into this apartment, but I am scared to leave my bathroom and also quite weak from my all this D and liquid loss. Plus it's so hot the loss of liquids is especially worrisome. But really have little in the way of safe D food as I am usually a C! Plus I need some food period.
Any suggestions?
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As you know, I'm not a D person, but I think I can offer up a couple of suggestions. Sorry to hear that you're not feeling well by the way, but I'm almost glad that you're finally getting rid of all that stool.
Do you have any bananas to eat? How about some potatoes or rice? Generally when I'm experiencing loose stool, bananas will solidify things for me pretty quickly. The reason I asked about the potatoes and rice, at least for me, they have more of a tendancy to keep things more solid by themselves. Also, you need to keep drinking lots of water or tea or both. I'm sure you know this, but the more D you have the less hydrated you get, which in turn can cause you to have more D.
I can't tell you for sure what's going to be the right thing to do, but if I were in your situation, I would stay away from the meds to help relieve your symptoms... at least until you've exhausted all other options.
Good luck Beth! I hope I've helped at least a little.
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Rachel!
#185703 - 06/11/05 11:36 AM
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Augie
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So good to see you, mommy!
Thanks for the advice. I think I tend to favor the food approach too. I know how my body reacts to Imodium...tend t be C for weeks then and harder to get out of it.
Unfortanetly no bananans in the apartment. Hey, that was a song. "Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today..."
But I have some white rice. I do need to get to a grocery store for some bananas which I never usually eat for the same reason as you...and potatoes tend to bother me too. I pray I don't have an "accident" on the walk.  And hopefully, they will have some ripe ones I can eat today! They tend to carry more of the green ones. 
Thanks about telling me about not drinking enough causing worse diarrhea. I never knew that. I knew it threw off the electrolytes, but didn't know about the worsening D.
Thanks Rachel. Good to see you on the eating board! You have been very helpful.
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Re: Rachel!
#185707 - 06/11/05 11:44 AM
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RachelT
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Well, I'm glad I could help! Good luck on your walk. Oh and if all they have is green, even though they don't taste as good (another one of my opinions) it should still prove to be helpful. Remember, the riper the banana, the more helpful for C... it would only make sense then, that the less ripe, the better for D.
Let me know how you do!
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Do sweet potatoes have the same effect for you (cause you to be a little more C), or were you only refering to white potatoes?
Good point about the bananas. Yeah, the green ones taste bitter and leave a nasty after taste, but could be beneficial probably. We'll see what they have, if I can make it out the door. (she says as she heads to the bathroom).
thanks again.
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~ Beth
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Hi there,
My advice would be to enjoy a banana to slow the D down, and also to replenish some of the lost Potassium stores. Drink lots of soothing herbal teas, Peppermint and Chamomile are very soothing for D. Also, plain broth is also very soothing on the system when it is under stress. If you are worried about loss of liquid and you are near a Whole Foods or Trader Joes, try the Smart H20. They are simply regular H20 infused with electrolytes! Good luck and take care!
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You poor thing!!!
I am most certainly a C person and have NEVER had an episode of D, unless you count when I've taken too much magnesium and the stools are practically liquid - but there is still no urgency or running to the bathroom.
That said, I know what makes me more C, so I would probably just try those things - for me: bananas, acacia, white rice, potatoes. Basically everything Rachel said. I wouldn't try the Immodium as it could make you more C when the D finally clears up.
Good luck!!!
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Elizabeth
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I honestly can't say for sure if they have the same effect or not. I can't seem to enjoy sweet potatoes much, so I hardly ever eat them. If that's all that you can tolerate (I'm assuming that you're referring to your gluten intolerance) then give them a try... I don't think it would hurt any. Besides, they are listed as a good soluble fiber food, for both C & D.
Wish I could think of something immediate, at least to get you out the door. Try the potatoes or like someone else suggested, the broth. Maybe you could mix some cooked white rice in with the broth... kind of like a rice soup.
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~ Rachel (IBS-C)
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When i have my D episodes (about once a month, for a day or 2) I let it run its course. It feels so nice to be empty. i feel skinny!
But I hear ya on the proper foods...I think you should go, and bring a bottle of tepid water with you, and just ask as soon as you get to the store where the bathroom is. I had a D attack last Sunday, at the grocery store, and had to park my cart in the bakery. how embarrassing. but when we have to go we have to go!!
Hope you get regular soon!! 
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Beth, I'm a D person. Definitely get some Immodium and also PEDIALYTE. You sound as though your electrolytes are way off.
This is dangerous. You need, and I STRESS need to get your electrolytes balanced, i.e. get some SODIUM in you. Pedialyte or Gastrolyte will assist with this and Immodium will stop the
D. You sound like you're really dehydrated.
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Beth, stay hydrated! You need some sodium to balance those electrolytes. When you have D think BRAT (bananas, rice, applesauce and tea/toast). White foods help "sponge" up the excess fluid in your colon, i.e. white rice, white potatoes, bananas, etc. A little gatorade maybe? A suitable broth for sodium, if not pedialyte/gastrolyte? Some rice crackers? Don't think to hard about it dear, as you really sound dehydrated. I've been dehydrated and it's not fun--you just end up hooked up to an I.V. to get rehydrated because even water will make you puke.
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to finally get all this out of me! I must have lost a few pounds of pure stool!  I feel so cleaned out, finally. Too bad it just couldn't be normal every day BMs!
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so this attack took me totally by surprise! I used to have chronic D a few years ago.
I'll be skipping my dose of magnesium today for sure!
Thanks for the suggestions, Elizabeth. 
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and that has been very nice! I missed them since having C. So it was a treat for me to have them today. And I feel all clean inside again. I just hope I don't go into a worse C cycle now! You know, the usual...
Why can't our Bowels learn to balance! Anyhow, this is going to sound weird, but it was a nice reprieve from the build up of stool in me. I feel so cleaned out!
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#185758 - 06/11/05 06:34 PM
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Augie
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I had some white rice and some white rice bread. I am trying to drink, but I'm not a big water drinker and it's so darn hot...tea is just heating my body up! I suppose I could drink it while soaking in a cool tub!
I'm just not used to having to deal with treating D as I am such a C person usually. Dare I say I am turning into an A??? But I really think it's all the stress I've had this week. It's been a doozy! You would not believe all that has happened, inluding walking to the grocery store today and having my groceries stolen while buying some water for the long, hot walk home. So I walked 1 1/2 hours in the heat and came home with nothing but a bottle of water.
Oh, the reason I was walking is because I was in a bad car accident and my car is totaled! I went right under a huge truck and my whole front car looks like an accordion. So, I have no transportation to get to my Whole Foods, Trader Joes, or anywhere! I live alone and have no one to help me get to places, including going to look for a used car.
Not to mention being totally broke and not having money to afford car payments. I'm in big trouble.
Yes, it's been a very bad week indeed. I had even more things happen...like being locked out of my apartment in the heat and pouring rain for 4 hours, broke my tooth in half and can't get to the dentist for a crown, which will be more money...and there was more, but this is the Eating Board, not the LR, so I won't go any further.
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You had your groceries stolen?? How horrible! I'm so sorry Beth! How are your bowels treating you now? Did the applesauce, bananas, etc. help?
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and my applesauce. They took it all. So all I could eat was some white rice I had at home already!
I stopped along the walk home to buy some water at the drug store and they wouldn't let me in with my bags, even though I was walking. So, I hid them behind some bushes in the back of the store. Someone must have been watching me because when I came out 5 or 10 minutes later (enjoying the air conditioning as it was so hot out), they were gone! I was only at the bushes like 2 seconds just so no one would see me! Who ever saw me was sneaky. I hope he/she gets food poisoning or worms from my food!
I'm feeling better though, physically. Thanks.
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~ Beth
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Beth, I am speechless. You're really having a bad day. I don't know what to say other than 1. I'm glad nobody physically and violently harmed you, your body. 2. What goes around comes around and the perpretrator is a big you know what. 3. I hope you attract some $$$. I feel like such a selfish, secular snob compared to you and your problems and just too dang lucky and blessed today and I wish I were nearby to assist you or at least bring you a perfect bunch of Cavandish bananas and some homemade no-chicken and rice soup! Holy cow. People can be so cruel.
Get better and I hope you don't let people take advantage of you. Re: fluids. I generally brew a big pot of tea and drink it room temp. all day long in the heat. I actually prefer room temp. fluid.
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They are attracting the worst karma, Beth--to steal you're bananas. That is really low, really dirty and just plain bad karma. I'm glad you're feeling better. "Rice is life," it is the staple of most of the world for a very good reason! Is this sort of behaviour normal in your locale?
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Hi Beth,
Im sorry to hear about your horrible day, and week for that matter! You poor thing-I do hope you feel better soon. What is wrong with people that they would steal someone's groceries like that?!!!
Take care of yourself!!!
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I know! They see a skinny, hot, lady walking in the heat (so obviously either too poor to afford a car, or doesn't have access to a car) and needs to get herself some food. And they steal it. Grrrrrrr
These people probably steal from charities, food pantries for the poor, and donation bins too.
I tell you, next week I better win the lottery to make up for this helluvaweek.
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~ Beth
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hi beth-ill be praying for your lottery win!!! I hope that things get better for you. Take care of yourself!
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You are absolutely welcome, Beth. Hope you're feeling better!!
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Elizabeth
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Oh, sweetheart, you poor thing! I hope they choke on your bananas!
Is there a coworker you could ask to take you car shopping? Maybe you could get to know them better, too. I'm sorry that you don't have anyone immediately available - that must be very hard on you.
You are in my prayers, dear.
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Elizabeth
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but when we have to go we have to go!!
That's interesting, because as a C, when I have to go (my first thought being "yay!!!"), I have to go immediately. Not a sense of urgency, just me being so excited and wanting to get it all out. Plus, I've heard that if you don't go when your body tells you to go, you lose usage of those muscles that are telling you you need to go now.
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Beth,
I had a D attack about a month ago and I never get D. I
stay clear of immodium-the last time I remember taking anything like that I couldn't go for a month. Get some sports drink or pedialyte as suggested. you will feel better. Dehydration makes D and nausea worse, can even throw you into shock.
How ironic to be a C with D isn't it. We wish we could go for days at a time and then all of a sudden we're not wishing any longer.
Good luck and feel better!!
Hugs,
Mary
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#185889 - 06/12/05 03:32 PM
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Augie
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I'm back to no BMs again.  I knew the D was a fluke. I'm back to my constipated self. Probably helped by removing my magnesium, triphala, and all IF yesterday.
Do you think one serving of White rice could cause me to have no BM today?  I must be really sensitive to the white rice/binding factor. Too bad because I love it and I can't handle brown rice. Back to quinoa today I guess.
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~ Beth
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