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      #182518 - 06/01/05 10:58 AM
MT

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Help. I just started taking Klonopin. I have wet the bed 3 times in 2 weeks. Has this happened to anyone. It has never happened before to me. Is it because it puts me in such a deep sleep. The first time I had a dream I was going to the bathroom, but it was no dream. Then it happened two more times this past week. What is going on. Other than that it has been fine for me for help with anxiety related to IBS.

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Re: klonopin new
      #182521 - 06/01/05 11:03 AM
SCgirl

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Hi, the doctor tried to put me on klonopin because he though that my IBS was because I got nervous. I tried taking it and it made me dizzy and tired and it just wasnt worth it and I didnt notice any difference at all..but just feeling drugged up. If I were you I would quit taking it and try something else and talk to your doctor about it.

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Re: klonopin new
      #182524 - 06/01/05 11:04 AM
DanaNoel

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Loc: Houston, Texas

Hi there,

I am taking Klonopin right now as well. My gastro doc prescribed it for me because he said that it helped block the "seizure activity" taht we call "cramps" in the gut. It does help me, but I have noticed my hair thinning a bit. That is really the only side effect I have found, that and I get a bit sleepy. How much and how often do you take it. I am supposed to take .5mg 3 times a day. That equals out to 1 1/2 mg a day.

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Re: klonopin new
      #182545 - 06/01/05 11:58 AM
MT

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THE DOCTOR PRESCRIBED .5 MG TWICE A DAY, BUT I STARTED JUST TAKING .5 ONCE A DAY AND HE GAVE ME ATIVAN FOR ANY PANIC SITUATIONS FOR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WHEN I AM NOT FEELING GOOD WITH THE IBS-C. THE BED WETTING IS REALLY STRANGE THOUGH, I GUESS NOBODY ELSE HAS HAD THIS HAPPEN.

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Re: klonopin new
      #182579 - 06/01/05 01:04 PM
pulse

Reged: 05/24/05
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Loc: sw ohio

DanaNoel,

i am taking 1.5 klonopin also.

this is VERY interesting (to me lol) that your doc calls cramps 'seizure activity.' that makes SO much sense. i don't have bipolar illness (i have major depressive illness), but i've read many times that klonopin provides some help in mood stabilization for some bipolar folks. a much-prescribed med for bipolar is the anti-seizure drug, depakote. it's used as a much more potent stabilizer than klonopin, and works, in part, on GABA. i just googled and found that our friend, klonopin, enhances GABA, also. GABA activity in our brains is known for it's calming abilities. apparently, that 'translates' into calming our guts.

continued good luck with klonopin. it is helping me immensely.

~ pulse



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Re: klonopin new
      #182595 - 06/01/05 01:19 PM
pulse

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Hi MT,

first, just a tip: typing in all caps is considered on the net, as you are yelling at us. so, it might well scare some folks off from replying to you.

i have not heard of this bed-wetting with klonopin. i have heard of one person only having it happen with the antidepressant med, remeron. this was a male.

klonopin is very sedating to some, but that typically wears off after a few days. perhaps taking it latest at dinner time or at least several hours before bedtime would help. if you are taking klonopin only for insomnia, as opposed to for anxiety, the sleep help will wear off in about a month or less. then, you will VERY likely have to keep increasing the dosage - creating a dependance few would want to get started.

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Re: klonopin new
      #182612 - 06/01/05 02:05 PM
BL

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I have just started taking klonopin again (I took it about 5 years ago and weaned myself off of it when necessary). I don't take it during the day---only a little at night when I have trouble relaxing to go to sleep. (sometimes only 1/4 mg. Other times 1/2 mg. Rarely 1 mg.) I don't take it every night.

My doctor told me it has a long half-life (takes a long time to get out of your system) so taking it at night would give me a little benefit during the day too.

Too bad you can become dependent on it, because otherwise, I would take it more often. It does help me (I have bipolar.)



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Re: klonopin new
      #184217 - 06/07/05 08:36 AM
MT

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SORRY FOR YELLING, Just kidding. I had heard that about CAPS before, but I never thought people took that serious. I always used to type on paper in caps too. I guess it makes it simpler in regards to typing. Well anyway, I am not taking it the Klonopin for insomnia, I never have trouble sleeping, the doctor prescribed it for the anxiety I deal with in having IBS for 20 years. One can only bare so much for so long, so I finally asked him for something, he started with Ativan, which I liked but it is short acting so he prescribed me Klonopin. I have now wet the bed 3 times but it seems to have stopped now. I think it puts me in such a sleepy state that I dream I am going to the toilet because i really have to go bad, and I think I am in the bathroom, but I am still sleeping. I have made it a point to get up in the middle of the night if I awake and go to the bathroom as often as possible and so far it hasn't happened again. It really makes me laugh though, when I am dreaming of being in an actual bathroom preparing to go and then waking up just as it starts coming out, oops. Well at least I can laugh about it. Regarding the addictive aspects of all these medications that are prescribed. I really don't care at this point in my life, because I don't beleive my IBS will ever allow me any quality of life and if these medicines give me any peice of mind, I will take it, addicted or not. I know some may perceive this as a negative attitude, but since I have been on the ativan and klonopin, I have gone out to dinner socially with people and had a good time because I wasn''t sitting there in fear of a stomach symptom that would send me running.

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Re: klonopin new
      #184228 - 06/07/05 08:47 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
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Do you guys feel it makes you more Constipated? Or are most of you D's? I am also taking 1 mg a day of klonopin but have my fears that it is increasing the constipation as it is suppose to calm the gut, which, in my opinion, translates into constipation???

My GI swears it won't cause constipation, but I think he just says things to make me feel better about taking the med.

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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!

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Re: klonopin new
      #184232 - 06/07/05 08:54 AM
MT

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My problems are more IBS-D. I don't feel it changing any of my physical IBS symptoms though, other than anxiety. Good luck.

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Re: klonopin new
      #184238 - 06/07/05 09:03 AM
DanaNoel

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I am an A (more on the C side) and it did not give me more constipation. It was GREAT for calming the gut down. I loved it but I had to stop taking it because it was making my hair fall out (don't worry - a very rare side effect by the way). My doc prescribed Xanax instead but it is not even as effective at calming the gut.

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Re: klonopin, C, xanax new
      #184389 - 06/07/05 01:06 PM
pulse

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Loc: sw ohio

MT: you have a good sense of humor re: the caps typing. someone reminded someone else in another thread, so yes, it can be (and often is) taken that way...at forums. sometimes, i also see it as attention-seeking, but maybe that's just me. for ease, i just type in no caps. typing in caps FOR EMPHASIS is allowed. rofl.

Augie: if someone is C, klon likely DOES increase C (agree calming usually does translate to constipating for us Cs!; also docs never admit it, in my experience). BUT having recently weaned myself off klon, off for 1 month, & now back on it for 10 days - so far, i would MUCH rather be abit more C, than allover gut-ill (with nausea, more cramping, more bloating) as i was w/out the klon. NO contest! not even close!

MT: i could now care less also if i'm addicted to klon - some would call that medical dependence (as it's for a physical problem, too, in our cases) AND i DO have a substance abuse history, main drug of choice cocaine/ crack. after nearly 8 year clean off that stuff (clean off everthing for over 6 yrs) and, then, for the last 1 1/2+ yrs on klon & never coming close to upping and/ or abusing it (i spent most of this time taking much less than i was prescribed) - i now refuse to worry about it, either.

DanaNoel: just a word of caution re xanax: because of it's much shorter half-life than klon, it gives a rebound (anxiety) - that's when you KNOW it's time for another dose. that effect *may* not be apparent at the beginning, but xanax is VERY well-known for this, and many do easily become seriously addicted (not med. depend.) in 4 months or MUCH less (a couple weeks), develop quick tolerance, and have to eventually & continually attempt to get their dosages upped. xanax has made doctor shoppers out of some of the best of us (to maintain our ever- increasing supply.) i've been off xanax since 1992 and that is one detox i would NEVER go thru again - it took 42 days! getting off crack was a cakewalk in comparison! sorry if this ruins your day!!!, but i would hate to see anyone go thru what i did. i'm always stunned when i hear of any doc still prescribing it. most shrinks have gone to klonopin because of these well known concerns. regular detox centers often don't know what to do with xanax users - the only real option is going into long term - several months long - treatment centers. this is what i HAD to do. xanax is one of the more seductive drugs out there - it seems to help so much and seems so harmless. when i've run meetings at detox centers, the saddest thing i've EVER seen (more than hard-core meth users or dope-sick heroin users) is the little old ladies who are in complete denial & refuse to give up their xanax. they usually leave after 2 days.

many many psych drugs make one's hair fall out - i can't remember now when i wasn't on one that did. depakote is perhaps the worst known offender, but hair fall-out for me is about as big a concern as a dry mouth side-effect - i.e., not that big - in the larger scheme of things. (and i was once quite vain - still am abit, truth be told.) i really do wish you would re-evaluate taking klonopin over xanax (or for that matter, over ANY other drug in the diazepam family - like ativan, serax, librium, etc). sorry i've come down this hard on this subject, but it is so very critical! btw, it's relatively easy to get off xanax after a short time on; very easy if you just go back to klonopin. if i didn't feel so passionate about this, i would not be bothering you - or anyone - about it. take good care.

~ pulse

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My hair falls out too! new
      #184402 - 06/07/05 02:17 PM
Augie

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I have lost about 60% of the hair on my head! Didn't realize this could be cause by klonopin. I've been on it for about 3 years or so. Geesh! I know my doc will just tsk, tsk this concern away too, though.

I take it because I cannot sleep without it now. I don't know if it does much for the tummy or the anxiety. He wants me to take 2 mg a day, but I'm afraid I'll be a zombie at work, so I only take 1 mg at night.

Did your hair stop falling out when you stopped the klonopin? How did you pinpoint the problem to the medicine? My doc says it is due to, what else, stress. The misc cause they label you with when they don't want to shut you up, in my opinion!

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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!

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Re: klonopin, C, xanax new
      #184405 - 06/07/05 02:28 PM
Augie

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Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

First, kudos for you for breaking your cocaine addiction! Yay you!

I'm confused. You say you are back on the klonopin now? And just living with the C?

When I initially went into my docs office asking for something for the anxiety, I asked for xanax because I read some earlier posts on how effective it was for some. But my doctor refused to give it to me and gave me klonopin instead. I was mad at him because I thought klonopin was only for seizures. I was new with drug info, what can I say!

I am vain enough to worry about the hair loss though! I hate washing my hair and getting clumps of hair in my hands! And finding hair all over my tops and the apartment floor when I need it to be on my head! I look so much worse with my thin hair. I miss my locks! And don't even think the klonopin helps me all that much except for allowing me to sleep soundly which, in turn, helps the IBS. It is at its worse when I haven't slept enough!

I don't know how hard it is to get off this drug, though. I'm scared to go off of it as I have heard it is a hard one to come off of.

Do you take any other meds?

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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!

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Re: klonopin, C, xanax new
      #184440 - 06/07/05 05:32 PM
pulse

Reged: 05/24/05
Posts: 69
Loc: sw ohio

thanx much, i really appreciate it, but getting off & staying off crack is not that hard....if you don't have an impulsivity problem, and i don't. i know many who have been off it for 15-20 yrs. i've very rarely missed it.

klonopin is not super easy to get off, but LOTS easier than xanax. the horror stories about klonopin were generated by singer stevie nicks, but she was up to 36 mg a day! my best guess is that she also has a personality disorder, as so many in the entertainment industry do. so, LOTS of probs with impulsivity.

sounds like you have a wise doctor!

DanaNoel didn't specify anything like clumps of hair; if so, i can see how this would be distressing, but, still, compared to the usual outcomes of xanax use, well....it just doesn't compare.

Augie, don't you have an ED? that (esp. anorexia) in & of itself causes thinning and/ or brittle hair in some (altho it didn't in me), but it is quite common. i've heard of some using various shampoos & treatments for their hair loss due to psych meds. sorry, i don't recall the names.

yes, i'm back on klonopin and doing so well my therapist just today said, "see you in a month." (i've gone 1/ week for many years). klon definitely helps my tummy. i don't 'just live' with the C because i also now do the SFS + Ensure w/ fiber & FOS (probiotic) +Probiotic Advantage by Dr David Williams + cut out almost all dairy. I am about 90+ better gut-wise than I was 10 days ago, when i re-started the klon, which enabled me to up my prozac from 10 mg to 15 mg (for the 1st time ever!!!). shortly thereafter, i started these other things.

~ Sarah aka pulse





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