All Boards >> Eating for IBS Diet Board

Posts     Flat       Threaded

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)
Imodium?
      #17887 - 08/20/03 05:21 PM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

I have been resistant to using Imodium because it isn't "natural", but decided that I am going to use all methods necessary to be able to take care of my large active family and travel as needed. This past weekend when leaving for my two-year old grand-daughter's birthday party a three hour drive away the diarrhea hit so I used Imodium. It stopped everything............for three days! I was careful to drink a lot and take my Citrucel and stick to the diet as closely as I could. What has anybody else discovered when using something like Imodium for those times when you have to travel? Does anybody use this for normal day-to-day maintenance? It sure was nice to find that it worked--I didn't have to worry about the diarrhea for the entire weekend, at least, but then I had other problems.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17893 - 08/20/03 06:13 PM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

If I ever need to use imodium (which thanks to Heather's diet & hypno is very, very rare nowadays), it helps me, but I'm back to having bm's the next day. I have heard of others who get clogged for days and even others that take it daily. I guess it's just another way that IBS is different for us all.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17897 - 08/20/03 06:25 PM
KaybeeC

Reged: 03/14/03
Posts: 241
Loc: Ohio

I've used Imodium for a couple of years as "preventative maintenance" - with my doctor's blessing. Like Mags said, the after-effects are different for everyone. For me, it is slightly constipating - but nothing abnormal. And it's well worth it, to be able to do what I need to do! BTW, there've been some posts about Imodium-Advanced - apparently it contains sorbitol - I think that's the pesky ingredient? If you took that form, maybe that's bothering you. Seems like we have to read labels like they're contracts! Just a thought ....

Blessings,
Kaybee C

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17918 - 08/20/03 08:09 PM
shawneric

Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 1738
Loc: Oregon

Busy Mom, here is some good info on this for you.

http://www.gicare.com/pated/loperamide.htm

This is actually a good site and has a good drug list there.

http://www.gicare.com/pated/edr0001.htm#ghi

There is also a good layman's term description of IBS.

with permission

Irritable Bowel Syndrome
What is an Irritable Bowel?
Medically, irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is known by a variety of other terms: spastic colon, spastic colitis, mucous colitis and nervous or functional bowel. Usually, it is a disorder of the large intestine (colon), although other parts of the intestinal tract -- even up to the stomach -- can be affected.

The colon, the last five feet of the intestine, serves two functions in the body. First, it dehydrates and stores the stool so that, normally, a well-formed soft stool occurs. Second, it quietly propels the stool from the right side over to the rectum, storing it there until it can be evacuated. This movement occurs by rhythmic contractions of the colon.

When IBS occurs, the colon does not contract normally. instead, it seems to contract in a disorganized, at times violent, manner. The contractions may be terribly exaggerated and sustained, lasting for prolonged periods of time. One area of the colon may contract with no regard to another. At other times, there may be little bowel activity at all. These abnormal contractions result in changing bowel patterns with constipation being most common.

A second major feature of IBS is abdominal discomfort or pain. This may move around the abdomen rather than remain localized in one area.

These disorganized, exaggerated and painful contractions lead to certain problems. The pattern of bowel movements is often altered. Diarrhea may occur, especially after meals, as the entire colon contracts and moves liquid stool quickly into the rectum. Or, localized areas of the colon may remain contracted for a prolonged time. When this occurs, which often happens in the section of colon just above the rectum, the stool may be retained for a prolonged period and be squeezed into small pellets. Excessive water is removed from the stool and it becomes hard.

Also, air may accumulate behind these localized contractions, causing the bowel to swell. So bloating and abdominal distress may occur.

Some patients see gobs of mucous in the stool and become concerned. Mucous is a normal secretion of the bowel, although most of the time it cannot be seen. IBS patients sometimes produce large amounts of mucous, but this is not a serious problem.

The cause of most IBS symptoms -- diarrhea, constipation, bloating, and abdominal pain -- are due to this abnormal physiology.

IBS is not a disease
Although the symptoms of IBS may be severe, the disorder itself is not a serious one. There is no actual disease present in the colon. In fact, an operation performed on the abdomen would reveal a perfectly normal appearing bowel.

Rather, it is a problem of abnormal function. The condition usually begins in young people, usually below 40 and often in the teens. The symptoms may wax and wane, being particularly severe at some times and absent at others. Over the years, the symptoms tend to become less intense.

IBS is extremely common and is present in perhaps half the patients that see a specialist in gastroenterology. It tends to run in families. The disorder does not lead to cancer. Prolonged contractions of the colon, however, may lead to diverticulosis, a disorder in which balloon-like pockets push out from the bowel wall because of excessive, prolonged contractions.

Causes
While our knowledge is still incomplete about the function and malfunction of the large bowel, some facts are well-known. Certain foods, such as coffee, alcohol, spices, raw fruits, vegetables, and even milk, can cause the colon to malfunction. In these instances avoidance of these substances is the simplest treatment.

Infections, illnesses and even changes in the weather somehow can be associated with a flare-up in symptoms. So can the premenstrual cycle in the female.

By far, the most common factor associated with the symptoms of IBS are the interactions between the brain and the gut. The bowel has a rich supply of nerves that are in communication with the brain. Virtually everyone has had, at one time or another, some alteration in bowel function when under intense stress, such as before an important athletic event, school examination, or a family conflict.

People with IBS seem to have an overly sensitive bowel, and perhaps a super abundance of nerve impulses flowing to the gut, so that the ordinary stresses and strains of living somehow result in colon malfunction.

These exaggerated contractions can be demonstrated experimentally by placing pressure- sensing devices in the colon. Even at rest, with no obvious stress, the pressures tend to be higher than normal. With the routine interactions of daily living, these pressures tend to rise dramatically. When an emotionally charged situation is discussed, they can reach extreme levels not attained in people without IBS. These symptoms are due to real physiologic changes in the gut -- a gut that tends to be inherently overly sensitive, and one that overreacts to the stresses and strains of ordinary living.

Diagnosis
The diagnosis of IBS often can be suspected just by a review of the patient's medical history. In the end it is a diagnosis of exclusion; that is, other conditions of the bowel need to be ruled out before a firm diagnosis of IBS can be made.

A number of diseases of the gut, such as inflammation, cancer, and infection, can mimic some or all of the IBS symptoms. Certain medical tests are helpful in making this diagnosis, including blood, urine and stool exams, x-rays of the intestinal tract and a lighted tube exam of the lower intestine. This exam is called endoscopy, sigmoidoscopy or colonoscopy.

Additional tests often are required depending on the specific circumstances in each case. If the proper medical history is obtained and if other diseases are ruled out, a firm diagnosis of IBS then can usually be made.

Treatment
The treatment of IBS is directed to both the gut and the psyche. The diet requires review, with those foods that aggravate symptoms being avoided.

Current medical thinking about diet has changed a great deal in recent years. There is good evidence to suggest that, where tolerated, a high roughage and bran diet is helpful. This diet can result in larger, softer stools which seem to reduce the pressures generated in the colon.

Large amounts of beneficial fiber can be obtained by taking over-the-counter bulking agents such as psyllium mucilloid (Metamucil, Konsyl) or methylcellulose (Citrucel).

As many people have already discovered, the simple act of eating may, at times, activate the colon. This action is a normal reflex, although in IBS patients it tends to be exaggerated. It is sometimes helpful to eat smaller, more frequent meals to block this reflex.

There are certain medications that help the colon by relaxing the muscles in the wall of the colon, thereby reducing the bowel pressure. These drugs are called antispasmodics. Since stress and anxiety may play a role in these symptoms, it can at times be helpful to use a mild sedative, often in combination with an antispasmodic.

Physical exercise, too, is helpful. During exercise, the bowel typically quiets down. If exercise is used regularly and if physical fitness or conditioning develops, the bowel may tend to relax even during non-exercise periods. The invigorating effects of conditioning, of course, extend far beyond the intestine and can be recommended for general health maintenance.

As important as anything else in controlling IBS is learning stress reduction, or at least how to control the body's response to stress. It certainly is well-known that the brain can exert controlling effects over many organs in the body, including the intestine.

Summary
Patients with IBS can be assured that nothing serious is wrong with the bowel. Prevention and treatment may involve a simple change in certain daily habits, reduction of stressful situations, eating better and exercising regularly.

Perhaps the most important aspect of treatment is reassurance. For most patients, just knowing that there is nothing seriously wrong is the best treatment of all, especially if they can learn to deal with their symptoms on their own.

Hope this helps.



--------------------
My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17922 - 08/20/03 08:23 PM

Unregistered




Hi

I had some problems myself with imodium and try to never take it unless it is an emergency now.

You should look up Slippery Elm powder. I've been researching it and it used for IBS. You can have it as tea, capsules, and others.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17925 - 08/20/03 10:19 PM
louise

Reged: 02/05/03
Posts: 836
Loc: canada

hI; before I discoverd Heathers site, I used lomotil prescribed by my doc. I found it quite helpful, especially at night or early morning because I could sleep without worry.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17928 - 08/20/03 11:45 PM
Tim G

Reged: 08/07/03
Posts: 95
Loc: NSW, Australia

Just a word on the Slippery Elm suggestion...when I was first diagnosed I worked my way through all of the herbal remedy books that I could get my hands on and came across this. I did try it briefly, but found it really difficult to digest as when you add water to the powder it makes a kind of brown slimy substance. It doesn't taste revolting like a lot of herbal remedies, but in me I had real trouble keeping it down because of the texture.

If anyone has tried it and it helps the symptoms please let me know, otherwise it will remain behind lock and key for me.

Regards,
Tim

--------------------
Tim

-A poor man's Jamie Oliver...without the attitude!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17932 - 08/21/03 03:46 AM
geekgirl

Reged: 02/28/03
Posts: 36
Loc: UK

It's not the perfect solution we'd all like it to be. But it is useful when you really cannot postpone your activities. It's very difficult to get the dosage right. Personally, the first time I took it I took the dose that it said on the packet - and it gave me C. So the next time I took half the recommended dose and that was much better. Sometimes I only take a quarter of the dose to begin with. After all it's easy enough to take more if needed, but you can't 'un-take' it if you have taken too much for your needs. If I have the time I prefer to stabilise myself by increasing my soluble fibre intake. But we don't always have that luxury.

HTH,
geekgirl


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17984 - 08/21/03 10:05 AM
Karin

Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California

Have you tried Calcium Carbonate for maintenance? I take Calcium Plus D, 600 mg twice a day. It's a great boost for your calcium intake and tends to constipate, but when you're IBS-D, it works wonders!!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17992 - 08/21/03 10:49 AM
Jennifer Rose

Reged: 04/02/03
Posts: 3566
Loc: Fremont, CA

I use Imodium as my last resort. Since I'm IBS-C, if I use Imodium, I can expect to be bloated, gassy, and completely stopped BM wise for a couple days after.

However, sometimes there are moments were you just have to be there. For example, I was at the airport about to get on the shuttle bus that would take me to my cruise ship in 30 minutes.. and I started having diarrea and cramps. Since I knew I had to be on that bus in 30 minutes, I resorted to Imodium and it stopped the diarrea within 10 minutes. It took me 4-5 days before I even started having the urge for a BM, but I didn't really have a choice.

--------------------
- Jennifer

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17993 - 08/21/03 11:16 AM
Karin

Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California

I'm not saying not to use Immodium, I have been there and it's a godsend. But for maintenance on a daily basis, the calcium works wonders.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #17994 - 08/21/03 11:22 AM
Judithg

Reged: 07/14/03
Posts: 157
Loc: California

This same thing just happened to me! I never used Immodium for the same reason you stated. But I just started a long commuting thing two days a week. On my first day of commuting, I was hit with an attack of D about halfway there. Had to stop, but then I went ahead and took some Immodium. Felt much better the rest of the day, but have had C ever since (diet has made no difference). The C made the second day of commuting easier, but I don't like these extremes.

I don't think it's good for day to day maintenance, but it definitely works in the short term if you're traveling. I'm interested to know if anyone has methods of getting things going again once you take the Immodium.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18042 - 08/21/03 02:42 PM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

I forgot to mention that I never take a full dose - I take only 1 instead of 2.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18043 - 08/21/03 02:44 PM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

I use the calcium plus D (caltrate) every day also. I used to take 2 per day (1 in am, 1 in pm), but now I only take 1.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18046 - 08/21/03 02:52 PM
Karin

Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California

Mags, I started out with 1/2 a day, but have increased it to 2 a day, each with a meal. It has made an unbelievable difference when combined with Heather's diet. I haven't taken an Immodium in a month and have been vacationing a lot. The diet's still first though in importance, if I eat a trigger food, the calcium does nothing for me.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18047 - 08/21/03 03:04 PM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

I think at one point I had been taking 2 1/2 - 3 a day or so. I discovered them long before Heather's diet. But, when I started following Heather's diet, that controlled things enough that I was able to drop down to 1. Thank God!

I can't remember the last time I've taken Imodium. But, I always have them there - just in case! LOL Sometimes just knowing they're there makes me feel better!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18126 - 08/22/03 06:36 AM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

Thanks all! You have all helped me quite a bit. I'm going to look into the Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Plus D for maintenance. Is there a brand name anyone recommends?

The dosage I took of the Imodium may have been my problem I think after reading everyone's suggestions. I took the 2 recommended, then took 1 more after the next BM as recommended, but I was having diarrhea every 10 minutes so obviously the first two hadn't had a chance to work yet and I shouldn't have taken the third. That was my mistake. It was nice to know it worked, however, and our trip wasn't ruined, and now I can carry it with me in case I need it. But I'll take a smaller dosage!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18141 - 08/22/03 08:45 AM
Karin

Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California

I just purchase the generic brand, it's comparable to Caltrate 600-D. Make sure it's the caltrate ingredient and not the citrate, the citrate has too much magnesium in it from what I've heard. I purchased mine at Long's Drugs, their own brand. Be prepared, they're huge.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18148 - 08/22/03 09:41 AM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

I used to get Caltrate 600-D, but I started getting the generic form of it at Sams, which is MUCH cheaper. A humungous bottle is only like $7 or $8.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18224 - 08/22/03 04:45 PM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

Would Viactiv calcium chewables work? I have those and they have calcium carbonate 500 mg. with Vitamin D and K, and no magnesium. I take those occasionally and have quite a few. If they work to help constipate I will start taking one or two every day. Do you know if Viactiv works the same way as Caltrate 600-D (brand or generic)?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18232 - 08/22/03 05:08 PM
Karin

Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California

I remember reading here that the chewables contain Sorbitol which is a laxative? web page

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18245 - 08/22/03 05:28 PM
*Melissa*

Reged: 02/22/03
Posts: 4508
Loc: ;

If you check their website for nutrition info, they all contain milk as well as other stuff: Viactiv Nutrition Info

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18250 - 08/22/03 05:35 PM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

No sorbitol, but, you're right, it does contain milk and butter. So far I haven't eliminated milk because I haven't felt that it has worked as a trigger for me. I haven't had the cramping and diarrhea after milk consumption like I have after the other obvious triggers. I'd like to keep milk in my life, but wonder if I should now try eliminating it to see what happens.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Imodium? new
      #18536 - 08/25/03 05:28 PM
gator

Reged: 05/26/03
Posts: 80
Loc: Florida

I agree. The calcium D works like a charm. I take immodium if I really have to , but only half a pill and I usually don't have C with such a low dose. I highly recomment the calcium as a daily thing..

--------------------
Thank You


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)

Extra information
0 registered and 4549 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Heather 

Print Thread

Permissions
      You cannot post until you login
      You cannot reply until you login
      HTML is enabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 5379

Jump to

| Privacy statement Help for IBS Home

*
UBB.threads™ 6.2


HelpForIBS.com BBB Business Review