Passvoer is REALY hard on the tummy.
#173677 - 04/25/05 09:41 PM
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Casper
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I can't take my SFS or my probiotic. I've been careful and had no attacks Thank G-D, but I am soooo C and bloated.  Any one experiancing the same?
On the other hand - I was able to convert alot of my safe recipes over to passover recipes.  And I did not get sick at the Seder. 
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Yes...C. i hear ya loud and clear!
I am making chicken soup as I write..with tons of veggies. And I bought tomato juice so I will be drinking it up! I find I need to take extra care of myself at Pesach. i am having oat matzo....but it seems to constipate me just the same. I am also finding I am not drinking as much water...
Chag Kasher V'Sameach! It's nice to see you Chany *big hugs*
Love, Ruch
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gas, cramps and solid D.. as in uncontrollable need to go! I think some of it was the wine at seder- I think I had about 2 oz TOTAL - I put a splash in my glass for each of the 4 cups because I know that grape juice gives me on the spot D almost!
The matza itself seems to be doing ok, but the lack of sfs and lack of other things is doing me in.. and I know about making safe treats.. I made a variant on my pulled chicken recipe for last night and ate it on baked potatoes! yummy!
still eating merengues and nuts too..
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Exceptions
#173756 - 04/26/05 06:51 AM
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belinda
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I am no expert since I am a VERY lapsed member of the faith, but, as far as I know, Judaism makes allowance for people with health problems that require them to follow certain diets. For example, you don't have to fast at Yom Kippur if you suffer from some sort of health problem that requires you to have food (for example, diabetes). In my case, I can't fast both because I suffer from blood sugar problems and IBS.
Judaism makes other exceptions too. For example, I believe a pregnant woman can have an abortion if, by carrying the baby to full term, the mother's life would be at risk.
I would be very surprised if the same philosophy didn't apply to Passover. I would think it would be okay for IBS people to eat their regular soluble fibre food (bread, etc.) if, by not eating it, they might get sick. I would also think they would not be required to eat or consume anything that might make them sick such as, for example, drinking wine at the seders or consuming the hot radish mixture (symbolic of hard times in the desert??) on matzoh.
Are there any experts out there who know for sure about this?
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I know! The first two days were horrible with a lot of gas, C, and other issues. Today (Day 3) everything is catching up to me...bleah. I'm trying to cut back on some matzah, but it's rather difficult since everything here in school has matzah meal. I'm trying spelt matzah to see if it makes a difference.
Good luck everybody!
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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Re: Exceptions
#173826 - 04/26/05 10:23 AM
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Computr821
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Well, you're right on most counts, but bread isn't allowed on Passover at all unless it's a life or death type thing. But yeah, wine isn't necessary and there are ways around the bitter herbs (horseradish is one of them, but there are other options, like endives or romaine lettuce).
By the by, the bitter herbs is reminiscent of the Egyptians making our lives bitter, not the hardship in the desert.
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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Metamucil is listed in the CRC (Chicago Rabbinical Council) Passover book as acceptable, if you can do that SFS. Flaxseed (the food, not the oil) is acceptable to some pretty strict authorities though some consider it "kitniyot"; even if considered kitniyot,
you cd pbbly get a medical dispensation even if you need it to manage; and NB---I've been finding quinoa to be an incredible substitute for oatmeal, brown rice etc. It tastes pretty good and can be prepared sweet or savory. I'm so grateful to have found it and have some at every meal. I've pretty much been avoiding matzah altogether as it tied my stomach in knots even before I had IBS-C. Good luck!!
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and thus most rabbis wouldn't consider it an issue- my grandfather has major issues and eating matza constipates him, but he is fine if he eats other foods.... I find passover easy enough to keep other then the fact that I LIKE the wine and I like the horseradish so I wind up eating them!
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Re: Exceptions
#174267 - 04/27/05 06:52 AM
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belinda
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Avidan:
Thank you for clarifying! Your post was very interesting. As I've said, I am VERY lapsed in my faith -- so lapse that I haven't practiced Judaism since I was 13 years old when I permanently rejected it for a variety of reasons. (My family never practiced it much before then either.) Still I have memories of what I was taught as a child in Sunday school and it's interesting that you say Judaism would allow leavened bread to be eaten during Passover if it was a life and death situation.
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Re: Exceptions
#174272 - 04/27/05 07:15 AM
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Computr821
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Yeah, life and death usually pushes off everything.
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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Just to add....
I was prescribed medication for my low immunity yesterday. And it had grain alcohol in it...made from wheat. The wheat was completely prcessed to the point that it is gluten free! But my Rabbi just told me I have to throw it away because it's Chometz.
Not life or death....
Thought you might find this interesting
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#174334 - 04/27/05 08:58 AM
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khyricat
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I would take it anyway or at least give it to a nonjew to hold for after pesach if the doctor thinks it will help that much!
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the Rabbi said I can't seel it as I bought it on Pesach...so in the grabage it went
How's your tummy Amie *hugs*
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Re: Ruchie
#174367 - 04/27/05 10:10 AM
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Computr821
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Huh...that's odd. Normally, swallowable medicine is ok for Pesach even when it has some chametz in it.
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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I'm a Christian, with a very open mind and appreciation of the Jewish faith....but I have no idea what Passover is all about.
What are these neat words you're using like pesach and the yiddish for "not ok to use right now.." etc? It seems like it's complicated to follow! Oy! You guys are committed to your faith, that's awesome!
PS- I do know that kosher menas blessed by a rabbi.(or OK'd by a Rabbi)
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Pesach is the same thing as Passover, it's just the Hebrew word instead of the English version. Passover commemorates the Exodus from Egypt (which is all laid out in Exodus). During the length of the holiday (8 days) one cannot eat leavened products, also called "chametz" (which is what I think you meant by the yiddish). This includes bread, crackers, and pretty much anything with grain in it or that was made on things that had grains cooked on it.
Kosher, in fact, means that the food adheres a specific set of guidelines and restrictions laid out by the rabbis and has been subsequently approved.
Ruchie, Amie, anyone else want to jump in here?
Avidan
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Why'd you have to go and make me so constipated?
--'Weird' Al Yankovic, "A Complicated Song"
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Just to add -- I believe leavened bread can't be eaten during Passover because there was no time for the bread to rise during the hasty exodus from Egypt.
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I think you covered it very well.. almost the same answer I gave at work today!
Amie
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I think I felt bad more because of what I ate on Seder night. All that romain lettuce and grape juice Anyway, I've felt much better today, as I've only been drinking water and eating more carefully.
BTW - I made ADBs this morning using cake meal and they came out GREAT!
I have a great recipe for pesach rolls (a little less constipating than plain matzah) Here it is if anyone is interested:
Rolls 
(per dozen)
1 c. water
1/3 c. oil
1/3 c. apple sauce
2 c. matzah meal
4 tsp. sugar
½ tsp. salt
8 egg whites
1. preheat oven to 375*
2. put water and oil in a pot and bring to a boil
3. Cool
4. Add matza meal, sugar, salt and mix well
5. add eggs one at a time
6. Let it stand for 15 minutes
7. Wet hands with water and roll into tennis size balls
8. Place on greased cookie sheet
9. Bake at 375 * 30 - 40 minutes (a bit less if the rolls are smaller - I make golf size rolls for my kids)
(Revised from Matzah Meals Cookbook)
These come out amazing. If you slice them in half and put a drop of jelly, apple butter or chocolate butter in the middle.... yum! 
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and, RIIIGHT! I knew I had some knowledge of it in my head somewhere. i think i've even seen matzoh.
Thanks a ton!!
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Edited by SoreTummyMommy (04/27/05 03:36 PM)
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