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Thank you Kandee new
      #151662 - 02/18/05 11:53 AM
Augie

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I learned a lot of that from you, my dear! Wow, I can't believe I've been eating GF for 16 months!

This second GI is not so hot, even though he does know that a firm CD diagnosis is not the only reason not to eat gluten. Believe me, he is not helpful and does not address all my other symptoms that I am having: edema in my legs and ankles (to the point where when I take off my socks there is like an inch difference where the indentation is) or my hair loss, or urine leakage). I suspect a thyroid or diabetic problem (these both run in my family) but the TSH came back in the normal range, so that was good enough for him. Although I've read that this does not always detect the problem. So, he is doing nothing about the bloating, edema, hair loss, etc. He doesn't take them seriously.

I will get a couple recipes I would like to try and you can give me the adaptation if that's okay? I know I've seen some on the boards that I'm dying to try. I'll post the link to them in another post. I would be so grateful if you could educate me on how to make them with GF flour and safe ingredients and still get an edible product! I know they need more leavening, but not sure how much more for the muffins or bread recipes. Heck, don't even know what leavening is! And I don't know how much xantham gum to add to these non GF recipes. That can be for another post though when I post the recipes I would like to try. Thank you again!

Also, need some tips on how to reduce the fat in GF recipes. The muffin mixes I bought contain 10 grams fat per muffin. I returned them! The GF recipes I see in cookbooks add lots of butter and oil.

I love my Kinnikinnick! Never heard of Manna from Anna Do you buy this in a HFS or mail order it? Where do you get your current mix from or do you make it from homemade?

Okay, I'm either moving to the west coast or Atlanta! How'd you hear about the Atlanta guy? Have you been there?

Maybe one day I'll be convinced that GF is necessary for me, but you know me well enough by now that if I read or hear anything that contradicts the GF eating for non diagnosed celiacs, I will always have my doubts. I hope to come to terms and piece with this someday, hopefully sooner than later. I think I continue to doubt it because even though I eat strict GF and IBS, I continue to have gas, bloating, constipation, cramps, and pain! If the GF eating would have helped these a little, if it was giving me some relief at all, I would have more faith in the GF diet necessity.

I even went to a specialist in celiac disease at University of Chicago where they have a reputable celiac clinic and the Doctor insisted that I could eat gluten after viewing my endoscopy xrays and both sets of bloodwork. This is why I think I still question it. Because she is supposedly an "expert". People come from far away to go to this clinic. But I didn't like her, and she was new to the clinic, so maybe she just has her own views on the "Golden Biopsy Standard" for eating GF. There are a lot of doctors who still believe that either all three tests need to be postitive or a positive endoscopy in order for the need to eat GF. I don't think any of them will ever agree. So, unfortunately, it's up to us to make an educated decision.

BTW, what did you mean when you said that turning C may be for the better? I think it sucks! But I think mine is due to my non functioning gallbladder which means it isn't releasing the bile to get the digestion going. Plus, I have delayed gastric emptying which also slow things down. Not much to do to treat those. At least my doc isn't doing anything or treating it. I wish I knew how to pull up your post and answer in another color right after the comment! I've tried but couldn't do it. It would be a heck of a lot easier than to keep scrolling down to reread what you wrote.

Thanks again for all your feedback Kandee. I think you are a very smart lady. Is that why they call you Doc? Or do you actually have a PhD?

I'll get back to you on the recipes I'm interested in adapting, Okay? Thanks again, dear!

Love!

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Kandee new
      #151664 - 02/18/05 11:55 AM
Augie

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Does the weight gain ever stop? I have gained about 25 pounds and not eating excessively, like 1200 to 1400 cals a day, and still keep packing on the weight. Do GF eaters ever level off?

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Great link, Kandee new
      #151668 - 02/18/05 12:04 PM
Augie

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I just printed it out myself!

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Re: Gluten free eaters new
      #151671 - 02/18/05 12:11 PM
Cher022

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Hi!
I've been gluten free for 12 years, I to had a negative biopsy and blood work, but was diagnosed by a chiropractor who does applied kinesiology. I don't tell many people about that because most people do not believe in that kind of doctor. Gluten is in so much stuff you really have to read labels and some companies are getting very good at putting allergy information on their boxes. For example Rice Krispies are not gluten free because of the barley malt. The best thing to do if you are not sure about a product is call the company. Most of them are happy to give you that information. If anyone would like to e-mail me about any product I would be happy to reply. But remember reading labels is very very important.
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Re: Gluten free eaters new
      #151672 - 02/18/05 12:12 PM
Cher022

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Hi!
I also forgot to write that gluten includes wheat, rye, oats and barley.

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Re: Gluten free eaters new
      #151674 - 02/18/05 12:14 PM
Augie

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You have to be careful with cosmetics too? How do you know if a cosmetic has Gluten in it? Geez, I thought it was just food that us non celiacs needed to watch. I didn't realize we also couldn't tolerate the gluten in cosmetics or soaps. And I never changed my toaster either!

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Adapting these recipes for GF new
      #151694 - 02/18/05 12:45 PM
Augie

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Okay Kandee, any suggestions on how to make these GF friendly! apple streusel muffins and this one Heather's grandma's chocolate applesauce bread and any pumpkin muffin recipe you might have (not too spicey).The one on the board has cloves in them which I'm iffy on plus not sure about nutmeg either. And also the AD brownies!

Thanks. Maybe if you gave me these examples I could figure out how to do it on my own so I wouldn't need to bug you everytime! Oh also any zucchini bread recipe you might have.

Thanks tons. You can email them to me if you want, anytime. No hurry at all!!! Please don't go out of your way. I know you are busy and I can't make them all at once. The AD brownies can wait. More interested in the muffins, and breads as I am not a sweets person!

Thank you again!

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Baking GF 101....LOL new
      #151695 - 02/18/05 12:46 PM
Kandee

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Hi Kandee! I actually moved 3 hours north of Vegas to my hometown. Its a tiny little town with nothing in it! Im planning on driving to Vegas tomorrow since Ive been reading so much about gluten intolerance - it looks like every day counts. This worries me a little since I had the blood tests taken so many months ago and have continuted to eat gluten! I cant believe my doctor didnt tell me to go GF because after reading about it, it should have been obvious that it might help with my test results. Now you're seeing the big picture!!! To bad these docs are in the dark. Unless it affects them, or their own family, they just don't understand it well enough to make sound recommendations. With what you are learning you'll be able to teach him!! My primary's first words to me when I see him, is "well, what are you going to teach me this time"...LOL. Anyways Ive been reading posts and info on Celiac.com all day long so with that and the help from you guys here on the boards Im sure Ill figure it all out soon! You'll be an old pro in no time I'm sure of it. I did notice that you said you could probably adapt Heather's recipes to be GF so I was wondering about her banana bread, chocalate applesauce cake and the peppermint fudge cake Can do... - any ideas! Thanks again for all your help!

Well darn..here I was hoping you'd be close to me. We have a Celiac support group just starting up that is wonderful. Bad part is we only are meeting once every 6 months, but I hope that changes. We have so many that are devistated and don't know where to start. It's especiall hard for the the older ones that don't take to change easily. The worst part is the longer they took to get a diagnosis the longer it will take to heal the intestines and start feeling better.

YOU COOK? I'm so impressed!!! This should be easy for you, really. There are just a few things to remember but once you start in there will be no stopping you, and you'll be eating up a storm.

I'm not sure if anyone else reading these boards is interesting in how to adapt Heather's recipes to GF so unless there are other responses here, I'll email them to you and Beth (Ruchie?) seperately. Her banana bread, chocolate applesauce cake and the peppermint fudge cake are all do-able, (I'll email the adapted version) but why not start out with something first that is a no-brainer, and needs NO changes. There are 2 in her EFI book that don't call for any flour of any type. One is the Chocolate Pecan Fallen Souffle' Cake (pg. 250) and another is the Meltaway Raspberry (or chocolate) Angel Kisses (pg. 241). The Chocolate Fallen Pecan Cake I've made with ground pecans, ground almonds, and ground hazelnuts and it came out good everytime. I bought the nuts all ready ground at TJ's or if you have a food processor or little coffee bean grinder you can grind them yourself. Sometimes I put the raspberries on it, sometimes I don't, or sub with another fruit. I'm sure there are others in the book. I'll just have to go through it to find them.

Keep up the good work. I know you're on your way to feeling better and looking fantastic!!!

Kandee





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Re: Gluten free eaters new
      #151700 - 02/18/05 12:51 PM
Kandee

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Read these threads. A girl named Kaiti is only 17 and one of the most knowledgeable people I've seen about this subject.

Kandee

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Are the lip products... new
      #151716 - 02/18/05 01:26 PM
Augie

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the only cosmetics to be concerned about? Or do you have to look into foundations, blusher, eyeshadow, mascara, etc.

Sorry if I'm overwhelming you today. Don't feel obligated to post back. Really, I know I can keep asking question after question.

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~ Beth
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