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      #150265 - 02/15/05 09:06 AM
jen828

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hi i am seeking ANYONE who is a food addict like myself--i have trouble eating high carb and am very nervous about changing my diet and gaining weight. i weigh and measure all my food and eat very cleanly--but adding more sweet veggies and grains scare me...Can anyone HELP?? i have eaten raw fruits and green veggies like green beans and zucchini for years- i am ready to be less bloated and change, i just need some support and advice. Also i am under GOOD stress:) as i am planning my July wedding. jmdsunny@yahoo.com

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I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150268 - 02/15/05 09:16 AM
Snow for Sarala

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And I do not eat any white flour or sugar! You can still do it! Try other grains like millet, quinoa, and brown rice, and buckwheat. You may be able to tolerate some or all of these grains! You can also try pureeing your veggies and see how you do. It may take a while to find what works for you...but you CAN do it! Good luck *hugs*

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Re: food addiction and IBS new
      #150270 - 02/15/05 09:17 AM
Dia

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I know everyone's different, but I've actually LOST 5 lbs since starting this diet in Jan. And I've even been eating all the yummy fruit breads and brownies. I think a lot of it was cutting out the extra daily calories from soda, and usually low fat food has less calories. I also have increased my exercise since then, so that might be part of it. I know it sounds over simplified, but if you just don't take in more calories then you burn, you won't gain wait.

Good luck, and I feel that this is a pretty healthy diet so don't be too worried!

Cheers,
Myra

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Re: food addiction and IBS new
      #150279 - 02/15/05 09:39 AM
jen828

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THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!!

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150282 - 02/15/05 09:42 AM
jen828

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HALLALUAH!! I AM IN OA ALSO BUT I AM REALLY CONFUSED B/C I HAVE OFTEN FOOD COMBINED SO I DUNNO HOW TO HAVE GRAINS...?? I FEAR MY BLOOD SUGAR WOULD DROP AND THE CRAVINGS WOULD KICK IN?? I HAVE NOT EATEN GRAINS IN 2 YRS....I WOULD LIKE TO TALK FURTHER WITH YOU B/C I DONT WANT TO GAIN WEIGHT IN BODY OR MIND!... OR BE CRAVING FOOD 24-7 EITHER. THANKKKKKKKK YOU!!

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150290 - 02/15/05 09:52 AM
Snow for Sarala

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We can absolutely talk further!

Grains like millet, quinoa, buckwheat, and bwon rice are wonderful for people with blood sugar issues. If you have a nutritionist I advise you speak with them about this!

As far as food comibining goes...how far apart must you eat things? Can you have some millet for breakfast and egg whites an hour later? This might work well for you.

What upsets your tummy now that brought you to this cite? Lets start there...

You're gonna be great! *hugs*

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150302 - 02/15/05 10:11 AM
jen828

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HMM WELL IT SEEMS HEAVY MEATS--ANYTHING WITH FAT ARE TOUGH--GRAINS I MAY "FEAR" B/C OF PAST BINGING ON PASTAS ETC...ALSO I AM A TEACHER SO I DO NOT HAVE LOTS OF TIME TO DO MINI-MEALS..BUT ONE DAY AT A TIME I COULD!! I THINKI HAVE CANDIDA SO I THOUGHT I WAS NOT "SUPPOSED" TO HAVE SWEET VEGGIES LIKE SQUASHES PARSNIPS ETC... DO YOU DO MINI-MEALS OR SUFFER FROM CANDIDA??
THANKS AGAIN,,,,

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150325 - 02/15/05 10:56 AM
Snow for Sarala

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Hi there...just want to let you know it's touhg to read your posts when they are in all caps. Thanks!

Have you been diagnosed with candida? If you have than I would recommend speaking to the naturopath/physician that diagnosed you. I would also recommend bringing this diet to your doctor and speaking with them in general about the changes you are considering making. I am definately more than happy to share with you my experiences and what I have done for myself. But I cannot advise you medically in any way.

I am not sure about the vegetables recommended for this diet in conjuction with candida.

You mention having difficulties with meat and fats. If you would like tof ind healthy substitutes for this you've come to the right place! Egg whites, tofu, soy, white meat turkey/chicken, and the other things listed as proteins in IBS diet are very healthy for us!

As far as grains...you will just have to try things and see. I hear your anxiety! You have to decide if you should keep things as they are and suffer the IBS symptoms or make slow changes and keep a journal and a close watch on the foods you eat and whther or not they cause a trigger in you. I'm sure you will make the best decision for you!

Good luck *hugs*

One more hting. I eat 6-8 meals a day. I need to eat every 2 hours for optimal health. As a teacher (I was a teacher a couple of years ago) this can be very difficult! But there are ways to make it work. Even eating a soem brown rice pasta with tomato sauce cold can be a small meal. Or rice crackers. Keep in mind...you are not the 1st or last person to have these needs. You are not alone!

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150351 - 02/15/05 11:16 AM
jen828

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Thanks for your honesty...I have seen --literally--dozens of naturopaths, herbalists, chiropractors etc etc..I thinki am gonna have to go within and let the answer surface.... i have been diagnosed with candida so i will take my time and try...My IBS is not horrific..but it can act up during PMS times.....and stress...i just know that i want to have a flatter lower belly. I am sure if i steam and finely chop my veggies that that will help. I actually eat lean turkey--ground and I love raw carrots. I juice vegies a lot to and that cuts the fiber right out so i get optimum digestion. Do you eat any nuts??

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Re: I'm in Overeaters Anonymous... new
      #150352 - 02/15/05 11:19 AM
Snow for Sarala

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You're welcome! I eat nuts very rarely. Same with peanut butter.

Another thing to try is soup. I find I get a lot of my from veggies from soup. Easier on my tummy that way. I often put brown rice pasta in my soup and I can tolerate it just fine.

Good for you! I knew you'd make the right decision for you...

*hugs*

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I have gained 25 pounds new
      #150487 - 02/15/05 04:15 PM
Augie

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on this diet. I am not addicted to food, but eat normal amounts just different foods. So I cannot comprehend why I have gained weight.

In fact, I eat about or less than 1600 cals a day, so maybe it's because I went from chronic D to chronic C? I don't know, but it scares me.

While I needed to gain weight in the begining of this diet, I'm afraid it won't stop because I don't eat a lot. And no desserts or sugar either. Just the carbs and safe foods of this diet. I miss salad and all my veggies and fruits!

Congrats on your upcoming wedding!

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Re: I have gained 25 pounds new
      #150601 - 02/15/05 10:33 PM
fishnets

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Quote:

on this diet. I am not addicted to food, but eat normal amounts just different foods. So I cannot comprehend why I have gained weight.

In fact, I eat about or less than 1600 cals a day, so maybe it's because I went from chronic D to chronic C? I don't know, but it scares me.

While I needed to gain weight in the begining of this diet, I'm afraid it won't stop because I don't eat a lot. And no desserts or sugar either. Just the carbs and safe foods of this diet. I miss salad and all my veggies and fruits!

Congrats on your upcoming wedding!



Trust me, it's most likely all bloating from the C! Plus when you don't go enough, the weight of the C is in you, and that can be several pounds. There are times where I magically lose pounds overnight, I just randomly get bloated and then not, you know?


Anyway back to the origional topic, I've definitly had my share of binging on food! Things that have helped me is trying to eat healthy...yes seriously, the healthier I eat, the less I crave junk food. But once I have some junk, then I keep wanting to eat it. For some reason the biggest way I've been able to stop binging is by taking 5 flaxseed oil pills each morning, I have no idea why but it totally stops my binging! It's fantastic

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Re: I have gained 25 pounds new
      #150646 - 02/16/05 05:48 AM
jen828

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Beth,

I totally feel for you. I eat about 1650-1675 cal. per day....and i still gain weight. I do not eat and sugar but i do eat fruit. I guess i am torn..maybe i have to puree' everything--esp greens. I also food combine and would be torn how to eat yams and turkey. Does that make sense?? What is chronic d to C..i am not following. Have you gone to a doctor to see where your weight needs to be in a healthy range?? I tend to want to be 10lbs less no matter what ..lol. I hope i can help you in some way..at least know you are not alone. Jen:)

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Re: I have gained 25 pounds new
      #150726 - 02/16/05 08:59 AM
Snow for Sarala

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I agree with Fishnets! When we are C and bloated...we can carry excess pounds easily!

Beth, you say you gained 25 pounds? Are you sure you're not getting any sugar? Not even from canned greens? Not even evaporated cane juice from the HFS? Do you drink a ton of water to flush you out? Get plenty of exercise? If you you answered yes to all these questions it may be a medical cause. I know hypothyroid can cause weight gain for example. It oculd also be from medication you are taking. I gained 20 pounds on amitrpltaline (elavil). Just some things to consider! *hugs*

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Re: Me too Ruchie.. new
      #151003 - 02/16/05 08:06 PM
gigi

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I gained 40lb on Amitryptiline. That was just a horrible thing that happened in my life, a true turning point I should say. I am short, so that much weight on a little woman, OMGOSH, I am still trying to loose it. I look better than I did when I gained it. I still have a about 15-20 to go. Hey, how do you know if you are a food addict? I think I am, I want to eat all of the time, I am gaining some of my weight back, and I hate that. I am so perplexed at this, I never thought I would have an eating disorder, I am constantly looking for something to eat. I hate that, and I wish it would go away. What do you know about this?

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Hi Gayla, *hugs* to you! new
      #151013 - 02/16/05 08:17 PM
Snow for Sarala

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I am SO SORRY the med did this

Go to www.oa.org. This is the overeaters anonymous website. There will be questions you can ask yourself to determine if you are a compulsive overeater. Feel free to e-mail me Ruchily@yahoo.com if you're still not sure and I'll see what I can do!

Hope you're feeling good *big hugs*

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I haven't messed with food combining new
      #151014 - 02/16/05 08:19 PM
Augie

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too hard to keep track. Plus I like eating my rice with my protein in one meal along with a veggie.

Chronic D to chronic C --- D stands for Diarrhea and C stands for constipation on these boards. Check out the abbreviation post at the top of the board.

I know a healthy weight for me would be anywhere between 110 to 130 pounds probably. And yes, I'm afraid it won't stop climbing up. I hope the others are correct in saying the extra stool is a cause. But I don't think it can account for 25 pounds!

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Hey Ruchie new
      #151017 - 02/16/05 08:27 PM
Augie

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I don't eat anything with sugar in it except for my one cup of rice milk. I do frozen veggies and get the lowest and make my own soups.

None of my meds list weight gain as a side effect. Hmm I'm stumped. I don't drink a lot of water, but do drink herb tea all day. Excercise is zilch!

I am very bloated and I am retaining lots of water in my calves and ankles. When I take my socks off at night I have like an inch difference where the sock indented my skin!

I've had my the blood work for thyroid done (THS) but it came back normal. I have heard though that the test doesn't always indicate when there is a problem. My doctor doesn't seem to take my edema seriously since the blood work came back okay.

Another reason I need a new doctor!

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Hey Beth! new
      #151018 - 02/16/05 08:33 PM
Snow for Sarala

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I say get a new doc right away! And don't give up! I KNEW something was wrong with me in addition to IBS...and I am so glad I didn't give up on myself or think I'm crazy (at least not too much of the time!) There WAS something more than meets the eye...and if I hadn't spoken up for myself I'd still be undiagnosed today! I say go with your gut feeling! If you think it could be thyroid or anything other than IBS I would continue doing research and searching for a supportive doc. You can do it *hugs* I'm here for ya! Love, Ruchie

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Depending on how C you are... new
      #151019 - 02/16/05 08:36 PM
Snow for Sarala

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depending on how stopped up you are...it might count for more than you think I've lost over 5lbs before!

I'd say it's more likely something else....and try and exercise if you can! Not using our bods can DEF make the weight go up

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Re: I haven't messed with food combining new
      #151078 - 02/17/05 06:48 AM
jen828

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Beth, i feel for you i truly do---i myself have added grains into my diet but i feel like i am full all the time now....i wonder if it is a transition phase?? Keep experiementing and trying--the results will surface....

Godd luck,
JD

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Re: Hey Beth! I agree with Ruchie! new
      #151447 - 02/17/05 07:40 PM
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If you feel like there's something more than IBS wrong with you demand more tests! (as unpleasant as they are). I feel like there's something more than IBS with me and maybe I'm wrong but I'm going to have every test possible first to rule out absolutely everything and if it all comes back negative well I guess I'm wrong. I hope you are doing okay and that some of the pain you have isn't too bad. If I could wave a wand and make you well believe me I would. I feel so badly for you. I read another post of yours and you're just like me. The cinema absolutely scares the life out of me. I just can't sit still long enough through a movie and if I do when it's over I feel so sick from pain I can hardly walk out of there but I'm just too scared to risk going in in the first place. Makes life pretty miserable and terribly boring at times. I wish we could just be normal. Big hugs. Let us know what happens.

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How do you find a good , supportive doctor! new
      #151448 - 02/17/05 07:43 PM
Augie

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I called my OB, whom I really like and he referred me to a GP and a GI. The GP is not covered by my type of insurance and the GI can't get me in until August 23rd!

The other GI he recommended won't see me unless I have a referal from a GP, so I'm stuck. I need a good doctor NOW!! This is so frustrating to feel like there is noone out there to help me find out what's wrong with me. I'm scared and noone will help or I can't find the doctor who will help.

How can you find a good doctor by turning to the yellow pages? You can't!

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I just love you to death Amy new
      #151451 - 02/17/05 07:50 PM
Augie

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I wish you had that magic wand! I know you would use it for all of us! You're always supporting me and invested in my health. It means a lot to me that you care to try and help.

If you read my post to Ruchie, you'll see why I'm not able to get the tests done. I have no doctor and don't know how to find one.

I don't need much from life. I don't need to be rich or beautiful or a genius or have a great job. I'd clean toilets for a living if it meant I could just have no pain and a normally functioning GI system. I would do anything, give up anything for that. It's a cliche, but it true that you can never be happy if you don't have your health.

I did have some tests done about 3 years ago and they all came back normal. But my symptoms have changed and new ones (like the edema and leaking urine) are new, so I think some additional tests are in order.

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Re: How do you find a good , supportive doctor! new
      #151460 - 02/17/05 08:19 PM
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I found mine in the yellow pages. Seriously. It just so happens that he's my local doctor. It takes time and can get expensive (but we have medicare which makes it a bit easier i guess) but you just have to go see a doctor and hope that they're sympathetic and will do what needs to be done. If I could send my doctor to you in the mail I would but I don't think he'd appreciate that very much. I've gone through countless GP's and 4 specialists trying to find the right one for me. I know it feels like you don't have time when you feel this crummy but unless you have someone nearby who can recommend a good doctor to you you kinda just have to see them all. Or you could try calling your local hospital and asking if they know of any GP's that are really good specifically in treating tummy problems. I found out some of mine that way. Big hugs. I know it sux.

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