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      #123584 - 11/19/04 08:07 AM
Sharon Mello

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Hi - I know, I know...I haven't posted in a long time. But I'm trying something new to me so I have to ask you "guys" if you've ever done it and stuck with it and given it enough time to see if it worked.

I got acquainted with Nature's Sunshine products by going to a seminar a few Saturdays ago and found out a lot of interesting stuff. In fact, I sent our Queen Mum (Heather, of course) the CD on Colon in Crisis, which was very mind expanding, to say the least! So I decided to try some of their products with the help of my niece who is a Master Herbalist, Kinesiologist, Iridologist, Clinical Nutritionist, BTA Tech (Biological Terrain Assessment), performs Emotional Release, does mechanical adjustments and uses the Photon SoundBeam. Of course, you also have to eat right.

Well, since I've been doing things she instructed me on and taking pre and probiotics, food enzymes, bioflavinoids, irritable bowel fiber (their formula), etc., and have been eating broccoli, raisin bran, oranges, apples (sans skin), mangoes, pears (sans skin), dried fruits (apricots, peaches, dates--haven't tried the figs yet), along with carbohydrates and chicken, fish, salads and occasionally organic beef, I have felt so much better, both energy-wise and gut-wise. I still let gas go, but not as often and the "stools" (in my case "bupkas") are getting softer and they want out of my body more times a day than just once! And I've been drinking herb teas all day--licorice root, red raspberry, decaf green tea w/lemon grass, camomile, peppermint--all brewed together and I use honey and Stevia as sweeteners. Trying to get off the artificial stuff. My husband just looks at me in disbelief, but as long as I don't "stink" him out of the bedroom (or any room for that matter), he doesn't care what I do as long as I can conquer this thing!

When I first started, the gas was levitating me about 3" off the floor and at about 5 mph around the store. Now, it's happening less and less. I guess my gut is getting used to all the new stuff I'm sending down.

So, you guys and gals out there in IBS Land, have any of you ever tried this approach and if so, what results did you get, if any? And, did you stick with it and give it enough time or get disgusted the first week, like I almost did?

Thanks for your responses. Sorry this post was so long, but you know me!!

Sharon Mello
(Always hunting for answers)

Edited by Sharon Mello (11/19/04 08:11 AM)

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #123620 - 11/19/04 09:04 AM
Angela E.

Reged: 10/14/04
Posts: 2518
Loc: Michigan

I haven't tried this yet but have a question for anyone. I have been following Heather diet for about a month and want to start on the Prebiotics/Probiotics stuff but still have no clue on what to take. Everytime I go into the health store they overwhelm on what I should take. What has worked best for people?

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #123654 - 11/19/04 10:06 AM
Shell Marr

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I don't have any answers for ya.... but just wanted to say HELLO and welcome back! I'll make sure Kandee sees this thread......

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That is the way I feel new
      #123700 - 11/19/04 12:29 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
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Loc: Minnesota

I started digestive enzymes though. Worked great at first but the last 10 days I haven't been doing well at all. I think it is better to stay on them though and try it.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #123713 - 11/19/04 01:12 PM
heather7476

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Hey Girl I will show what i take on the 4th!!!

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Re: That is the way I feel new
      #123714 - 11/19/04 01:12 PM
heather7476

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Sorry to hear your feeling bad!! Big hugs!!!!!

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Thanks! new
      #123748 - 11/19/04 03:14 PM
Little Minnie

Reged: 04/16/04
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I think I feel like I crossed the threshold today. I just get into cycles and have a hard time getting out. It has always been that way with me. But this one was from the China Buffet almost 3 weeks ago (Sunday) and I think I am changing again as of today. Weird huh?

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #123834 - 11/19/04 08:46 PM
Meryl36

Reged: 09/03/04
Posts: 163
Loc: Dallas, Texas

Hi,
About 2 weeks ago I started taking a probiotic (jarrodofollius..sp?) & at first I didn't really see any results but for the last 4 days I've had a BM almost every morning & feeling slightly less bloated. I'm also taking Zelnorm & have cut my dosage down to once a day. Someone else on this board (don't remember who) recommended PB8 as a probiotic so I'm going to try that one next week. Overall I'd say it was helping. I was actually able to eat some veggies tonight & not feel all gassy & bloated. I'm going to stick with this & hopefully it'll keep getting better.
Meryl

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      #123838 - 11/19/04 08:55 PM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
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How many do you take a day?

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #123844 - 11/19/04 11:00 PM
Kandee

Reged: 05/22/03
Posts: 3206
Loc: USA, Southern California

Quote:

Hi - I know, I know...I haven't posted in a long time. We've missed you AND your great recipes. But I'm trying something new to me so I have to ask you "guys" if you've ever done it and stuck with it and given it enough time to see if it worked.

I got acquainted with Nature's Sunshine products by going to a seminar a few Saturdays ago and found out a lot of interesting stuff. In fact, I sent our Queen Mum (Heather, of course) the CD on Colon in Crisis, which was very mind expanding, to say the least! So I decided to try some of their products with the help of my niece who is a Master Herbalist, Kinesiologist, Iridologist, Clinical Nutritionist, BTA Tech (Biological Terrain Assessment), performs Emotional Release, does mechanical adjustments and uses the Photon SoundBeam. Of course, you also have to eat right.

For those of you interested, do a Goggle search on Nature's Sunshine products. It is a direct marketing company that you pay to be able to buy the products and be a distributor.
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Nature's Sunshine Products, Inc. together with its subsidiaries, collectively known as the Company is engaged in the manufacturing and marketing of nutritional and personal care products. The Company sells its products worldwide to a sales force of independent distributors who use the products themselves or resell them to other distributors or consumers. It also sells its products through a separate division, Synergy Worldwide. Synergy Worldwide sells products in Japan, Taiwan, Thailand and the United States. The Company's line of over 700 products includes herbal products, vitamins, mineral supplements and miscellaneous other products. It also manufactures or contracts with independent manufacturers to supply a variety of other products, including different drinks, homeopathic products and powders.




Personally I found them to be overpriced and would never pay a company $40 to be able to buy their products. But with all due respect to the company they DO have some stringent, impressive quality controls.

Well, since I've been doing things she instructed me on and taking pre and probiotics, food enzymes, bioflavinoids, irritable bowel fiber (their formula), etc., and have been eating broccoli, raisin bran, oranges, apples (sans skin), mangoes, pears (sans skin), dried fruits (apricots, peaches, dates--haven't tried the figs yet), along with carbohydrates and chicken, fish, salads and occasionally organic beef, I have felt so much better, both energy-wise and gut-wise. I still let gas go, but not as often and the "stools" (in my case "bupkas") are getting softer and they want out of my body more times a day than just once! And I've been drinking herb teas all day--licorice root, red raspberry, decaf green tea w/lemon grass, camomile, peppermint--all brewed together and I use honey and Stevia as sweeteners. Trying to get off the artificial stuff. One of the Nature's Sunshine products (I believe it was a probiotic booster, whatever that is) uses Manitol and Xylitol, so if your on it you're still using artificial sweeteners but not likely a large amount. How well I know about the dangers of Xylitol. I sweetened some hot cocoa last week with Xylitol and thought I was going to die from cramps and D...and I'm NEVER a D. My husband just looks at me in disbelief, but as long as I don't "stink" him out of the bedroom (or any room for that matter), he doesn't care what I do as long as I can conquer this thing! LOL

When I first started, the gas was levitating me about 3" off the floor and at about 5 mph around the store. Now, it's happening less and less. I guess my gut is getting used to all the new stuff I'm sending down.

So, you guys and gals out there in IBS Land, have any of you ever tried this approach and if so, what results did you get, if any? And, did you stick with it and give it enough time or get disgusted the first week, like I almost did?

I've been on prebiotics (usually Acacia or Inulin) before a meal, and probiotics and digestive enzymes with every meal for well over a year now, and yes, for me it works. It isn't an occasion thing either....I take it very seriously and wouldn't think of a full sized meal without the addition of probiotics and digestive enzymes. My "good doc" got me started on large doses of probiotics and bioflavinoids and a few other things with each meal, and a friend that also has IBS got me started on digestive enzymes. No gas, but there still is bloating. I don't think that will ever go away unless I eat my meals spread out over 8 small mini-meals a day.

All those things you mentioned I do not have a problem eating either, except for oranges, and of course anything with gluten or that is advised against for a person that is hypothyroid. But, no matter how long you are on the routine of taking those things, there will be times when you think you can get away with NO high soluble fiber foods...and that's when you can get bit!! I've had it happen a number of times when I thought I could go without any bread (GF), or rice, or potato or other highly soluble food...A week or 2 or maybe even 3 of that and my gut said "enough is enough"...so even though you will be able to reduce the gas and cramps and eat a wider variety of foods you always need to remember this basic diet and adhere to it when you start getting out of control with the insolubles. At least this has been my findings.

Thanks for your responses. Sorry this post was so long, but you know me!! I'm just as bad...long winded as they would say....Kandee

Sharon Mello
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