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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes - Sharon again! new
      #124248 - 11/21/04 08:52 AM
Kandee

Reged: 05/22/03
Posts: 3206
Loc: USA, Southern California

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Kandee - Hello again Sharon-

Yeh, well I guess pushing 60 in 4 weeks Sagittarius? is considered an "oldie!" Oh, I was referring to the old crowd on the board, many of which are gone now or don't post very often. Guess it was time to move on since "the" diet has worked so well for them. But if it's any consolation, I'm only 3 years younger so I fit into that "vintage chick" catagory too!

Re Product 11: I couldn't find that product on the product list, but that doesn't mean it's not there! But I did find one comparison on Puritan's Pride of Stevia Powder 2 oz. @$14.95 (and now they're on sale buy 1 get 1--such a deal!) LOL Anyway, Nature's Sunshine Stevia Powder is 1.26 oz. for $13.95. So, yes, PP is less expensive, especially if you can catch them on one of their sales. BUT...what about QC? Guess I'll have to call PP and ask them how they do their QC. Eww, I'm not a fan of PP. I buy more well known brands and if bought on line vitacost.com has great prices. Trader Joe's has a pretty fair selection of supplements too, and good prices, especially on things like CoQ 10 and Grapeseed extract.

I'll check with NS and see if they'd be willing to give us samples. Maybe they'll even come and talk to us...who knows? How nice!

Yep, you're right about the warning labels on antibiotics. Take one thing to help an infection, and then get another in its place. Go figure. In my case the side affect, IBS, is here to stay! But I've read about even more devastating affects antibiotics have caused others and see class action suits cropping up by the dozens.

Just found L. Reuteri on the list and checked the label on-line and, yes, you're right. Wonder why they don't use Stevia instead of the other crap?? Good question. You may ask them. Do some research on stevia. It's not all it's cracked up to be either, and a person with thyroid disease is generally advised not to take it. However, there is one herbal tea that uses it that I love..Honeybush, by Wisdom.

Re the prebiotics you take--you're not recommending them. You're just telling me which ones you take. If you still don't wanna tell me, it's okay. I'll struggle on my own!!!!LOL I'm sorry. I must have misread you. I thought you were asking about PRO-biotics, not pre. That's easy, I take the SFS that are prebiotic in nature...acacia, and inulin (FiberChoice--but it has a lot of undesirable fillers, yet is in chewable tablet form). If you have some better, please share!

Re bloating--have you tried fennel tea? I should grow the stuff I drink so much of it!! And yes it really does work. Only 2 things do for me...walking, walking, walking and fennel. Like you, I drink herbal tea all day long. I have a stash no one would believe and drink what ever I feel like at the time. Some are straight, others are combos. It really helps. I put it in my tea concoction every morning--you know...it's like eating chicken soup when you're sick...it might not help but it can't hurt. Ahh, let's see, this morning I had some Pau d'Arco tea since I felt a little like I had a sore throat and that's marvelous for any infections. Later will have some Wisdom Honeybush (a combo) and maybe some Hawthorn later after that. Love hibiscus when I'm in the soda pop mood...it just is a happy, happy red tea.) I can't do peppermint straight anymore due to it promoting GERD in me, but can take Altoids (which have acacia in them BTW)..go figure.

Re your doc: what's an ACAM MD? DUUUHHH. Go to acam.org and look up the specialties of the docs in your area and to get some background on the organization.

Re ostrich meat: Nope, haven't tried it yet. Do the regular grocery stores have it? Sometimes. Usually privately owned meat markets carry it.

Love the "vintage chicks" and I'm so sorry about the FF WW fudgy brownie recipe. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, but I didn't hold a gun to your head to make them, did I? If I did, I don't remember anything!!!LOL What? You don't remember threatening me with my life if I didn't down an entire pan of the things in 2 days? Shame on you...LMBO..our memory is the first to go you know.. I'll accept your apology but you must promise not to send the prune fairy to my house anymore with any baby food prunes.

BTW, who are the animals at the end of your post? Yours? Nope, not mine, but they are adorable. Shell found them for me when I said I wanted something for thanksgiving in the signature line and was kind enuf to link them to her web site. I can just see it now if I tried to do that with my own. They look at me with that, "you want to do WHAT?" look and walk away. Too darn cute.

Sharon
Have a good holiday...Kandee
It's snowing here this morning (and to think yesterday it was 75 and I was BBQ'ing beer can chicken---organic chicken and organic beer of course...wink, wink).





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Re: Prebiotics?-Kandee or anyone new
      #124250 - 11/21/04 09:06 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

What is a probiotic and can it be found in any other product besides acacia or inulin?

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Re: Prebiotics?-Kandee or anyone new
      #124263 - 11/21/04 10:22 AM
Kandee

Reged: 05/22/03
Posts: 3206
Loc: USA, Southern California

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What is a probiotic and can it be found in any other product besides acacia or inulin?




I don't know. Anyone else know?

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #124270 - 11/21/04 10:41 AM
Angela E.

Reged: 10/14/04
Posts: 2518
Loc: Michigan

Thanks Lady!!

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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes - Kandee again! new
      #124758 - 11/22/04 07:03 PM
Sharon Mello

Reged: 08/23/04
Posts: 28
Loc: 25 miles from Yosemite National Park in Ca.

Hi Kandee - About L.V. next year--Dan and I are planning on attending. We'll probably drive out...are husbands welcome?? You'll love him--he's so adorable and has gorgeous eyes. Can you tell I'm in love???LOL We'll be married 23 years Dec 8. It's the longest thing I've ever stuck with!!! Came close a few times to not sticking with it, tho!

Why do you choose chewable pre-biotics? Are they better than capsules?? And (another question) it sounds like they're fiber instead of pre-biotic or am I just stupid???

I just tried putting the fiber pills I get at W-M in water to see how fast they dissolve--and they don't. Now they're on my "crappy" list of stuff not to take. The Nature's Sunshine people warned us about pills because they're so compressed, they might not ever dissolve in your tummy. I take NS Bifidophilus Flora Force which consists of L. rhamnosus 2.5 billion, L. casei 2 billion, L. acidophilus 2.5 billion and B. longum 1 billion. Other ingr are FOS (short and long chain, kosher gelatin and H2O. It says, "FOS (short and long chain) is a blend of dietary fiber (prebiotic) that promotes the growth of friendly bacteria. Cultures are freeze-dried to preserve viability and designed to populate the intentinal tract." (I just answered my own question above...duuuhhhh!) I also take NS Intestinal Soothe & Build (nutrients to support the lower bowel, relieves occasional bloating and pressure, soothes intestinal tract). It has chamomile flowers, marshmallow root, plantain herb, rose hips, slippery elm bark and buglewood herb. Other ingr Kosher gelatin and H2O.

Okay...while we're on the subject, I also take NS Irritable Bowel Fiber. It says "provides essential support in maintaining healthy bowel movements (hip, hip, hooray!!--it doesn't really say that), high mucilage ingr offer soothing effects on the GI tract, and promotes regularity and helps prevent the buildup of toxic compounds). It has short chain fructooligosaccharides (prebiotic dietary fiber), marshmallow root, chamomile flowers, flax meal, apple pectin, asparagus stem, fennel seed, peppermint leaves and cat's claw inner bark. Whew~!

I take more pills than anyone I know and I drink at least 65+ ounces of fluids a day and I still do bupkas.

Speaking of hibiscus tea...have you ever tried Jimaica (pronounced Him-eye'-ca)? It makes a nice red colored tea and is great when sweetened. It's terrific for bladder problems. Cleared mine right up when we were in Mexico a few years ago and I was having all kinds of problems. You can most likely find it in Mexican groceries. That's where I find it.

I didn't understand the prune fairy line? Did they do you in? Don't think it was the prunes, but the gluttoness of the person who ate all the brownies in 2 days. You didn't share them with anyone?? LOL

Sorry with the longness again, but you're so easy to "talk" to.

Sharon
Have a great Turkey Day, too.



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Re: Prebiotics/Probiotics/Digestive Enzymes new
      #124776 - 11/22/04 09:46 PM
Taylahmai

Reged: 11/03/04
Posts: 257
Loc: Western Australia

I thought you were meant to keep probiotics cold or the bacteria dies, which means I can only take it morning and night. How do people go taking it three times a day? Also do you take it with food or 30 mins before food, or doesn't it matter?

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Brand names for IBS Cers in Australia new
      #124779 - 11/22/04 10:59 PM
Taylahmai

Reged: 11/03/04
Posts: 257
Loc: Western Australia

Hi, is there anyone from Oz who takes a probiotic for C and are really happy with the results? If so can you tell me the brand name? Also just a general question: this whole prebiotic and probiotic routine is news to me. Can you take a prebiotic and a probiotic together?

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Augie new
      #124871 - 11/23/04 10:21 AM
Sweetd

Reged: 07/13/04
Posts: 782
Loc: NY

Hi Augie,
A probotic is in a capsule form such as Acidophilus. Prebotic is in Acacia. The Prebotic (from what I am told) promotes the growth of good bacteria in the gut(promotes the growth that the Probotic has in your gut).

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me too heather... new
      #124880 - 11/23/04 10:47 AM
khyricat

Reged: 08/05/04
Posts: 3612
Loc: Michigan

I am definitely interested in anything else that will help.

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IBS - A
Dairy Allergic
Fructose and MSG intollerant


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