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Kandee - thx for your response. Just a note though, Nature's Sunshine charges $40 to become a member but you get that in product so there's really no out-of-pocket that you don't get anything for. Some of their products are reasonably priced. I just got a brochure from Puritan's Pride and their product prices compare with Nature's Sunshine. And, yes, their QC is great because they do a QC with EVERY BATCH. I know they're in it for the money (aren't we all when we're selling stuff), but they seem to care about getting the word out to people that if you don't start treating your body right, it'll come back and bite you in the butt. You sound down on them, but I've learned a lot about their products and what their premise behind the product is.
Okay, so I haven't been on the boards for a long time, but how come no one talks about pre/probiotics, etc and using them to help with IBS? I'm trying to get a rise out of Heather, but I think she's bogged down with other stuff and Will was away for a week and she was left do do everything by herself. That's why I sent her the CD on Colon in Crisis. BTW, everything was going great gutwise for me until last night. Don't know what happened, but the gas was unforgiving and I still have it this morning. Guess it's back to rice and flour tortillas for me for today!!! Better than the alternative, tho, right?!
Actually, it makes good sense to me that if your gut is lacking the good bacteria and enzymes (Beano is a digestive enzyme--aspergillus niger to be exact)that should be there to process food and get it on its way, that person would have gut problems, i.e. IBS. It's like when you take anti-biotics for something, it kills all the bacteria--good or bad--and that's why some women get yeast infections when taking them (including me).
As for the artificial sweeteners in one of their biotic products, that probably was a while ago because I just checked the label (which you can do on-line BTW) and there were no AS in them.
Where do you buy your prebiotics, probiotics and digestive enzymes? And, which ones are you taking? Got the prebiotics that you mentioned--thx.
Can you believe that here in a town of 2000 that I can get organic chicken and turkey and beef? I was shocked but we had a new grocery store come in and they carry it and it's only 10 minutes drive for me and on the way to the store. I couldn't believe how good organic (Harris Ranch) beef tasted. Of course, I haven't eaten it for about 6 months either!
Thank you, Kandee, for an enlightening response and I look forward to your response to the above questions. Sharon
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Augie - it should tell you on the bottle they come in. Prebiotics should be taken before your meal because they lay the groundwork and environment for probiotics, which is the actual good bacteria that helps break down the food you eat. They should be taken with the meal.
Kandee knows a heck of a lot more than me about this. Check her out--she's a good source for answers on this.
Sharon
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Angela E - check out Kandee's response to my post and then ask her your questions--I'm still new to this. Kandee's an Old Timer (sorry, Kandee!)
Sharon
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Heather 7476 - what does that mean??????? Sharon
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Augie - Qty
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The bottle says one a day, but I've also heard to take one with every meal. So that's a big difference. I was afraid taking too many would cause constipation or other symptoms. So anyone know what the amount should be?
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OOPSS sorry!!! I was replying to Angela E post !!!! She is coming to visit on the 4th!!!
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Hi Sharon,
Good to see you back if only briefly. I had just joined the boards when you were getting your shop started so didn't get a chance to know you like a few of the other "oldies".
Kandee - thx for your response. Just a note though, Nature's Sunshine charges $40 to become a member but you get that in product so there's really no out-of-pocket that you don't get anything for. Some of their products are reasonably priced. I just got a brochure from Puritan's Pride and their product prices compare with Nature's Sunshine.
I didn't get a chance to compare all the prices of Nature's Sunshine products with that which I take but did compare one that was comparable, "Product 11", and it didn't match the amount of live organisms for the various stains of Lactobacillus and Bifidus, yet was $10 higher. However, there is very contradictory information going around about probiotics right now. The newest is that it doesn't even matter if the organisms are dead, they will still work. Others say it's the AMOUNT that counts, others the strain. Go figure. I say, just take the darn things and let your gut do what it wants with them….it will let you know if it's helping or not. And, yes, their QC is great because they do a QC with EVERY BATCH. I know they're in it for the money (aren't we all when we're selling stuff), but they seem to care about getting the word out to people that if you don't start treating your body right, it'll come back and bite you in the butt. You sound down on them, but I've learned a lot about their products and what their premise behind the product is.
That's great. Education is always the name of the game anyway, no matter who you get it from. No, I'm not down on the company. I only question some of their marketing techniques. I hope, however it works for them if they are viable. This market is highly competitive as it is. BTW, I wonder if they would be willing to offer samples for our Fall Sprawl in 2005. And we want YOU there!!!
Okay, so I haven't been on the boards for a long time, but how come no one talks about pre/probiotics, etc and using them to help with IBS?
Beats me. The board has changed Sharon. If anyone is interested in a good primer on probiotics here is one Shawn Eric posted a while back. web page
I'm trying to get a rise out of Heather, but I think she's bogged down with other stuff and Will was away for a week and she was left do do everything by herself. Heather and Will both are very busy. That's why I sent her the CD on Colon in Crisis. BTW, everything was going great gutwise for me until last night. Don't know what happened, but the gas was unforgiving and I still have it this morning. Oh, I'm sorry.
Guess it's back to rice and flour tortillas for me for today!!! Better than the alternative, tho, right?! You got that one right. This is what I mean….you can be going along just dandy and think you have it all licked, and you're taking exactly what you are suppose to, and then bam, out of the blue, the gut is going to show you who's boss. I think the key may be in keeping it resting or, at worst, crouching…..but not in the attack mode where it nails us. It's tough, under the best of circumstances!! You have to be vigilant!! Actually, it makes good sense to me that if your gut is lacking the good bacteria and enzymes (Beano is a digestive enzyme--aspergillus niger to be exact)that should be there to process food and get it on its way, that person would have gut problems, i.e. IBS. Exactly, and you need different forms for different groups; fats, proteins, carbs, etc. It's like when you take anti-biotics for something, it kills all the bacteria--good or bad--and that's why some women get yeast infections when taking them (including me). Ahhh, you're lucky….that's exactly how I got IBS….antibiotics and NO probiotics to offset killing the good bacteria. NO one told me at the time you need probiotics…they need warning signs on the labels of ALL antibiotics. As for the artificial sweeteners in one of their biotic products, that probably was a while ago because I just checked the label (which you can do on-line BTW) and there were no AS in them.
This probably isn't one you take. It was the chewable L. Reuteri by Natures Sunshine. I don't know about any of the others. I'll have to check. Where do you buy your prebiotics, probiotics and digestive enzymes? And, which ones are you taking? Got the prebiotics that you mentioned--thx.
Well, I always hesitate to recommend brands since there are many out there that will do very nicely for us with IBS. I've tried a number of digestive enzymes and they all seem to do fine. Yes, I've also taken Bean-o but found I only needed it a of couple months then the entire gas problem went away. I still carry them with me though. My probiotics I get from a my "good doc" (as I lovingly refer to him) who is an ACAM M.D. at a preventative medicine clinic I go to and for whatever it is worth is also Doctor Phil's wife's alt. medicine and natural hormone doc….and pushing 80 years of age!! Can you believe that here in a town of 2000 that I can get organic chicken and turkey and beef? Amazing! I was shocked but we had a new grocery store come in and they carry it and it's only 10 minutes drive for me and on the way to the store. I couldn't believe how good organic (Harris Ranch) beef tasted. Of course, I haven't eaten it for about 6 months either! Have you tried any ostrich meat? It tastes like beef but I think is actually considered foul. It's not to bad, but yes, organic beef IS darn good. Organic anything is better. Thank you, Kandee, for an enlightening response and I look forward to your response to the above questions.
Sharon
You're welcome Sharon. Don't be a stranger….we "vintage chicks" have to give our input now and then too!! BTW, just so you know…it's all your fault, you know…you and your FF, WW fudgy brownie recipe that was responsible for me putting much of the weight back on after initially coming down with IBS and loosing 35 lbs. instantly….35 I needed to loose. Now say you're sorry…LOL Kandee
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Augie - it should tell you on the bottle they come in. Prebiotics should be taken before your meal because they lay the groundwork and environment for probiotics, which is the actual good bacteria that helps break down the food you eat. They should be taken with the meal.
Kandee knows a heck of a lot more than me about this. Check her out--she's a good source for answers on this.
Thanks Sharon, but I'm certainly no expert..just been doing this routine a long time....But yes, you are right...Prebiotics before a meal and probiotics with. Kandee
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I take two a day. One in the morning on an empty stomach & one at night before dinner. Hope that helps Meryl
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Kandee -
Yeh, well I guess pushing 60 in 4 weeks is considered an "oldie!"
Re Product 11: I couldn't find that product on the product list, but that doesn't mean it's not there! But I did find one comparison on Puritan's Pride of Stevia Powder 2 oz. @$14.95 (and now they're on sale buy 1 get 1--such a deal!) LOL Anyway, Nature's Sunshine Stevia Powder is 1.26 oz. for $13.95. So, yes, PP is less expensive, especially if you can catch them on one of their sales. BUT...what about QC? Guess I'll have to call PP and ask them how they do their QC.
I'll check with NS and see if they'd be willing to give us samples. Maybe they'll even come and talk to us...who knows?
Yep, you're right about the warning labels on antibiotics. Take one thing to help an infection, and then get another in its place. Go figure.
Just found L. Reuteri on the list and checked the label on-line and, yes, you're right. Wonder why they don't use Stevia instead of the other crap??
Re the prebiotics you take--you're not recommending them. You're just telling me which ones you take. If you still don't wanna tell me, it's okay. I'll struggle on my own!!!!LOL
Re bloating--have you tried fennel tea? It really helps. I put it in my tea concoction every morning--you know...it's like eating chicken soup when you're sick...it might not help but it can't hurt.
Re your doc: what's an ACAM MD? DUUUHHH.
Re ostrich meat: Nope, haven't tried it yet. Do the regular grocery stores have it?
Love the "vintage chicks" and I'm so sorry about the FF WW fudgy brownie recipe. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, but I didn't hold a gun to your head to make them, did I? If I did, I don't remember anything!!!LOL
BTW, who are the animals at the end of your post? Yours? Too darn cute.
Sharon
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