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Anyone familiar with 5-HTP? Please help!
      #110558 - 10/05/04 01:03 PM
bamagirl

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Alternative natural supplement to seratonin drug like Prozac. For help with IBS/PMS related problems. ANY advise/knowledge would be appreciated!! Thanks!

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Re: Anyone familiar with 5-HTP? Please help! new
      #110583 - 10/05/04 02:08 PM
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bamagirl,

Hi! Are you from Alabama? I habve fam there!

Okay...go to the hypnother[ay board and post to ShawnEric and also search past searches there. He knows LOADs about this stuff!

Good luck!

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Re: Anyone familiar with 5-HTP? Please help! new
      #110656 - 10/05/04 07:42 PM
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Have tried it as a sleep aid; my understanding is that it's the alternative to HTP, which is no longer available.
I gotta say, it did nothing for me. No observable help with sleep, and no observable ill effects either. I think you could give it a try and see if it is helpful to you, but it also seems safe to say it probably can't hurt.

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      #110675 - 10/05/04 08:21 PM
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Taking 5htp, is probably not going to help IBS, because the serotonin dysregulation in IBS, is different problem then taking 5htp for it.



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Pathophysiology
Altered Serotonin Signaling?
The pathogenesis of IBS remains obscure, and in particular, an explanation for alternating diarrhea and constipation has been elusive. In arguably one of the most important papers presented during this year's meeting, Moses and colleagues[21] studied potential deregulation of the gut's serotonin transporter in IBS.

It is known that serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine or 5HT) is released from enteroendocrine (or enterochromaffin) cells in response to either chemical or mechanical stimulation of the gut mucosa. Serotonin in turn initiates peristalsis, and then the serotonin released is taken up in health by a highly selective serotonin transporter (SERT). One potential mechanism that could explain altered bowel function in IBS is an abnormality in the serotonin transporter itself. The study authors evaluated this hypothesis in patients with IBS with constipation and IBS with diarrhea compared with patients with ulcerative colitis and healthy controls. They were able to convincing show on blinded review that SERT immunoreactivity was less intense in patients with IBS with constipation and patients with ulcerative colitis.

If these findings are indeed correct, they represent a landmark observation. The findings suggest that patients with constipation and IBS may have a reduced capacity to reuptake serotonin, leading to excess free serotonin and then desensitization of these receptors, thus reducing motor function. In contrast, in the setting of diarrhea, serotonin uptake was normal. If the underlying abnormality in serotonin transporter function alternated, then this would in turn explain alternating constipation and diarrhea.

These data strongly suggest that IBS is a "real" gut disease and a potential diagnostic disease marker. They also suggest that it is valid to subdivide IBS into constipation and diarrhea symptom subgroups. This study also provides additional rationale for the use of serotonin-modulating agents in IBS and provides a new target for drug modulation. Confirmation of these very exciting initial findings in larger patient samples is awaited with great interest.


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Q: I have suffered from irritable-bowel syndrome for many years. I get diarrhea. The doctors I've seen have offered little help. Recently, my daughter suggested I try an over-the-counter medicine called "5-Hydroxy-tryptophan," made by a company called Natrol Inc. My daughter says it is a mild antidepressant. It seems to have helped quite a bit, but it also seems to slow me down and make me feel tired. Can you give me any information on this? What is it, exactly, and are there any serious side effects? The only other medicine I take is Synthroid.
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Irritable bowel syndrome is now recognized as a disorder of serotonin activity. Serotonin is a neurotransmitter in the brain that regulates sleep, mood (depression, anxiety), aggression, appetite, temperature, sexual behavior and pain sensation. Serotonin also acts as a neurotransmitter in the gastrointestinal tract.

Excessive serotonin activity in the gastrointestinal system (enteric nervous system) is thought to cause the diarrhea of irritable-bowel syndrome. The enteric nervous system detects bowel distension (expansion) on the basis of pressure-sensitive cells in the bowel lumen (opening). Once activated, these pressure-sensitive cells promote the release of serotonin, which in turn promotes both secretory function and peristaltic function (the contractions of the intestines that force the contents outward). At least four serotonergic receptors have been identified to be participants in the secretory and peristaltic response.

Patients with diarrhea-predominant IBS may have higher levels of serotonin after eating than do people without the disorder. This recognition led to the development of the first drug used specifically to treat diarrheal symptoms of IBS, alosetron (also known as Lotronex). Alosetron blocked the specific serotonin receptors responsible for recognizing bowel distention. In doing so, it blocked the effects of serotonin and reduced both bowel secretions and peristalsis. Constipation was the most common side effect seen. (Note: Alosetron was removed from the market by the manufacturer after repeated reports of a dangerous condition known as ischemic colitis became known.) Tegaserod (Zelmac) is another drug under development and under review by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for approval. Tegaserod is indicated for the treatment of constipation-predominant IBS and works to increase enteric nervous system serotonin activity.

So, increasing serotonin activity in the enteric nervous system produces increased bowel secretions and peristalsis (and potentially diarrhea), whereas depressing serotonin activity produces reduced secretions and reduce peristalsis (and potentially constipation). Increasing serotonin activity in the brain would increase awareness and, in higher doses, produce anxiety, insomnia and restlessness. So I would have expected exactly the opposite effects of those that you experienced.

I am unable to identify any possible drug interactions between 5-HTP and Synthroid (levothyroxine) but the symptoms described suggest a check with your doctor may be in order. Persistent feelings of tiredness and constipation may be signs of an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism).

June 19, 2001


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Re: Anyone familiar with 5-HTP? Please help! new
      #110710 - 10/06/04 05:58 AM
bamagirl

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Yes. Alabama has been home for my family since '98. South Central Alabama. Near Auburn. My husband's family is from here, so we are near extended family. Hubby is also a grad student at AU. Thanks!

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Another question based on your information.... new
      #110711 - 10/06/04 06:01 AM
bamagirl

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So will taking 5-HTP hurt someone who is IBS-A? Most of the time I am C, but tend to swing back and forth depending on stress levels. I'm investigating it more for PMS than IBS, because years ago I was treated with Prozac for sever PMS and post-partum and it really helped. Just trying to avoid meds if possible. But, if 5-HTP will cause my IBS to worssen, then I will have to go back to gyn. PMS has gotten significantly worse...just looking into alternatives. Any further info? I will search the hypnosis board as well per Ruchie's suggestion.

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Thanks ShawnEric, I knew you could help her out! n-t new
      #110725 - 10/06/04 07:32 AM
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Re: Anyone familiar with 5-HTP? Please help! new
      #110726 - 10/06/04 07:34 AM
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SO COOL! My cousins live in Birmingham...is that near you? You're welcome...I hope all this info. helps you out! Feel good!

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It 's better used as a sleep aid, like Valerian. -nt- new
      #110733 - 10/06/04 08:15 AM
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