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      07/15/05 06:00 PM
jen1013

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(To this day those flying monkeys still scare the hell out of me.)

I know how you feel. I get stress-induced fits of paranoia all the time. Why is it so easy to brush away one's successes and agonize over one's failures? I'm not sure exactly how one goes about de-stressing and feeling all happy and self-confident. I have a feeling that winning the lottery and buying a private island in the Pacific somewhere might lie in the answer somewhere. And my guess is that your successes are not flukes. Sure, there is always some amount of being in the right place and so on and so forth, but you can't be successful on luck and cosmic vibes alone.

Again, totally understand about the BF thing. We were stuck in the same ugly cycle of my wanting to KNOW, wanting to know where exactly are we going???? when he didn't know the answer. And when I look back I don't know why I kept asking, because the answer was not going to change just because I kept nagging him. He needed time, and once I finally backed off and respected that, things got a lot better, and we did end up getting engaged. I think what made me back off was suddenly wondering one day -- what if our positions were reversed? What if I wasn't 100% on this thing and he kept pushing me? I hate being pressured. No one does. And no matter how logically or nicely I presented the question, it was still pressure -- pressure to have an answer that he didn't have. It wasn't like he was deliberately toying with my feelings and trying to string me out as long as he could so he'd have someone to pay half the bills and wash his dirty socks.

I guess in a perfect world your significant other should always want to talk to you no matter what, but it just doesn't work out that way. When it's a discussion on a subject that always ends up with both of you unhappy, that's a little different, at least in my book. My husband is always there for me, but there are conversations we know by now that we can't have.

I guess when you get down to it -- men suck! They can't commit! Seriously, I think that they run on cycles, like they only consider marriage every 7 years or something. I almost threw in the towel more than once. But, I'm very glad I didn't. I can't speak for anyone else, though. It's so hard, especially when you have years invested and might end up thinking about "what if"s ... and yeah, that long-distance part sucks. I'm not sure what either of you have planned for staying in your respective cities, but it does make it tough to plan for the future when you don't know if you're going to be together.


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jen

"It's one of the most serious things that can possibly happen to one in a battle -- to get one's head cut off." -- LC

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* Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
jen1013
07/12/05 06:25 PM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
jonesgirl
07/18/05 08:48 PM
* Tough decisions!
Kree
07/14/05 07:01 AM
* Kree
jen1013
07/15/05 06:27 PM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/13/05 07:50 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
jen1013
07/13/05 07:45 PM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 06:19 AM
* Amanda
jen1013
07/15/05 10:53 AM
* Jen
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/15/05 11:42 AM
* pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
jen1013
07/15/05 06:00 PM
* Wait---you nag too??
epa_ginger
07/15/05 11:03 AM
* I am kind of a traditional nagger
jen1013
07/15/05 11:55 AM
* Re: Wait---you nag too??
Lana_Marie
07/15/05 11:28 AM
* See, I don't like the word "nag..."
chinagrl
07/15/05 11:23 AM
* Wow - all men really ARE the same... :)
Cara4503
07/15/05 11:37 AM
* I guess so!!
epa_ginger
07/15/05 01:44 PM
* Re: I guess so!!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/15/05 02:09 PM
* Re: I guess so!!
epa_ginger
07/15/05 02:33 PM
* Hah!
epa_ginger
07/15/05 11:26 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
michele
07/14/05 07:17 AM
* Michele
BL
07/14/05 07:19 PM
* oh my michele!!
Dr. Spice Yamin
07/14/05 07:50 AM
* Re: oh my michele!!
michele
07/14/05 08:03 AM
* Re: oh my michele!!

07/14/05 08:12 AM
* Re: Aw, thanks Brittany!
michele
07/14/05 08:21 AM
* Re: oh my michele!!
Dr. Spice Yamin
07/14/05 08:09 AM
* ash ...
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 08:11 AM
* Whoa!!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:25 AM
* Re: Whoa!!
michele
07/14/05 07:52 AM
* Sing it, Sister!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 08:04 AM
* Re: Sing it, Sister!
michele
07/14/05 08:11 AM
* Parallel childhoods?!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 08:17 AM
* Re: Parallel childhoods?!
michele
07/14/05 08:25 AM
* Re: Sing it, Sister!
Portageegal
07/14/05 08:08 AM
* by the way ...
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 07:44 AM
* Re: by the way ...
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 10:27 AM
* Re: by the way ...
chinagrl
07/14/05 07:46 AM
* Re: by the way ...
Portageegal
07/14/05 07:50 AM
* Ha ha!!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:49 AM
* Re: Don't forget frozen pot pies!!!
michele
07/14/05 08:17 AM
* Re: Don't forget frozen pot pies!!!
Portageegal
07/14/05 08:24 AM
* I am cracking UP!!!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 08:21 AM
* Re:I almost forgot about the fish sticks!!!!
michele
07/14/05 08:30 AM
* Jiffy mixes
jen1013
07/15/05 11:36 AM
* Plan For the Furture
Portageegal
07/14/05 08:54 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:05 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 07:38 AM
* Well, if you're crazy, I'm crazy!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:46 AM
* Re: Well, if you're crazy, I'm crazy!
chinagrl
07/14/05 07:47 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
chinagrl
07/14/05 07:45 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 07:56 AM
* I do that too!
Linz
07/14/05 11:53 AM
* Me, too....
epa_ginger
07/14/05 11:59 AM
* Re: Me, too....
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 01:07 PM
* Wow...
Cara4503
07/14/05 06:49 AM
* Maybe this is more common than we think..

07/14/05 07:09 AM
* Could you plan my life for me too??
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:19 AM
* Re: Could you plan my life for me too??

07/14/05 07:31 AM
* You're so cool!!
epa_ginger
07/14/05 07:55 AM
* Re: You're so cool!!

07/14/05 08:02 AM
* Just my two cents
Lana_Marie
07/14/05 07:01 AM
* My opinion, and Lana,
_Willow
07/16/05 07:11 PM
* Lana - was this for me??
Cara4503
07/14/05 09:24 AM
* Re: Wow Brittany
michele
07/14/05 08:39 AM
* Re: Wow Brittany

07/14/05 08:43 AM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
chinagrl
07/13/05 08:50 PM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
Portageegal
07/13/05 07:11 AM
* Compelled to post a reply to this one...
bamagirl
07/13/05 05:55 AM
* I didn't know you homeschool too!!! cool... nt
ecmmbm
07/13/05 06:56 AM
* Re: I didn't know you homeschool too!!! cool..
bamagirl
07/13/05 07:40 AM
* I feel for you...
ecmmbm
07/13/05 10:24 AM
* Re: I feel for you...
bamagirl
07/13/05 10:40 AM
* Take it one step at a time...
ecmmbm
07/12/05 06:48 PM
* My worry too...
epa_ginger
07/12/05 06:40 PM
* Re: Making babies ... and then staying home with them!
Cara4503
07/12/05 06:33 PM
* Good point Cara!
Linz
07/13/05 12:18 AM
* It's a little easier for me to keep up....
Cara4503
07/13/05 05:02 AM
* Cara
jen1013
07/13/05 08:11 PM
* Re: Cara
Cara4503
07/14/05 05:43 AM
* Re: Cara
jen1013
07/15/05 11:47 AM
* Re: Cara
Cara4503
07/15/05 02:10 PM
* Re: Cara
jen1013
07/15/05 06:40 PM
* Re: Cara
Cara4503
07/16/05 05:39 AM
* Re: Cara
jen1013
07/16/05 08:08 AM
* Re: Cara
Cara4503
07/16/05 01:53 PM
* Ahh, Cara.....
BL
07/13/05 06:58 AM
* Re: Kids are more important than careers
michele
07/13/05 09:49 AM
* This is a tricky issue!
chinagrl
07/13/05 09:53 AM
* Re: This is a tricky issue!
LittleLisa
07/13/05 10:36 AM
* Lisa! (and any other working mom)
jen1013
07/13/05 08:03 PM
* Re: No offense taken, really!
LittleLisa
07/14/05 11:47 AM
* Re: No offense taken, really!
AmandaPanda, J.D.
07/14/05 01:11 PM
* You're not bad!!
epa_ginger
07/13/05 11:50 AM
* Re:Aww thanks ginger!
LittleLisa
07/13/05 02:18 PM
* Re: Very Good Point!!!!
michele
07/13/05 09:59 AM

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