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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368536 - 11/14/12 01:41 PM
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Yes - treat psuedo-D like D. And NO we don't know that those with IBS-C need more IF.

We know that normal individuals with C usually need more IF. IF is a bulking agent that increases the amount of water in the stool reducing stool density making it easier to pass.

We know that individuals with IBS-C may have their symptoms worsen and in fact become more C with increased IF. As well as absorbing water IF is a GI stimulant. The stimulation may be sufficient to produce bowel spasms. Instead of the bowel moving in a rythmic systematic manner it moves in a chaotic spasmotic manner ... increasing C. Sort of like having a charlie horse where the muscle knots up.

Problems with IF (bran) was first reported in 1994 and it has been confirmed in amny subsequent clinical trials. Only in recent years has been it widely recognized that traditional advice to increase IF may have been make IBS symptoms worse. Even so it is taking a long time for this knowledge to be adopted by many doctors.

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Re: syl, you don't snack?-nt new
      #368537 - 11/14/12 01:43 PM
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I do snack on pretzel and low fat potato chips from time to time. Unfortunately I suck too many peppermint candies

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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368538 - 11/14/12 01:44 PM
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I am curious what does not apply. Are you saying you don't have the symptoms described? Or they are wrong about the test?

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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368539 - 11/14/12 01:47 PM
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But doesn't Heather say that IF is more important and very necessary for people with C and that those with C must get as much IF as possible? Most posts, over the years, say this as well.

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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368540 - 11/14/12 01:49 PM
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I just didn't see anything that talked about people who have positive antibody tests and not celiac. Only people who have negative tests.?? I'll read it again.

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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368541 - 11/14/12 01:51 PM
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Indeed she does. The key phrase is as much IF as possible. She goes on to explain in detail how to find a base level and slowly slowly increase IF as much as possible.

This does not mean that you will be able to eat as much IF as a normal person. You have to find your own limit. Have you experimented to find your limit? Is it possible that you are eating too much IF and need to drop back and start over again?



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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368542 - 11/14/12 01:53 PM
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No I haven't experimented. I just try to eat a SF base and then one or two IF items. But then again, I have been using brown rice products as my SF base. And maybe my granola bars that I eat alone with snacks are SF. I have no clue.

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where did you find how to find your IF level?-nt new
      #368543 - 11/14/12 01:54 PM
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Re: where did you find how to find your IF level?-nt new
      #368544 - 11/14/12 01:55 PM
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this is getting long. I should start a new thread.

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Re: I HURT,,,,can anyone help? new
      #368545 - 11/14/12 01:55 PM
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Oh - I see. The important point is that irrespective if the test is a false negative or false positive it says "If the blood test suggests celiac disease, you should next see a gastroenterologist for an evaluation and possibly biopsy of the lining of the small intestine, which is required to establish a diagnosis of celiac disease."

A blood test is not a firm diagnosis of celiac it is an indicator. A firm diagnosis can only be done using a biopsy.

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