All Boards >> Eating for IBS Diet Board

Posts     Flat       Threaded

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | >> (show all)
Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement
      #355786 - 02/14/10 10:24 AM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


Just wanna say, I've been taking this probiotic for a couple months now and I really love it. Ingredients: L. acidopholus, B. bifidum, B. longum. Other ingredients: potato starch, gelatin, silicon dioxide.

The bottle lasts a month if you take one capsule a day, and it costs around 12 dollars at Wal-Mart.

Just thought I'd share.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355790 - 02/14/10 11:03 AM
shawneric

Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 1738
Loc: Oregon

Glad its helping Dana, what symptoms are they helping?



--------------------
My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355800 - 02/14/10 10:08 PM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


Gas is so much less!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355814 - 02/15/10 07:54 AM

Unregistered




Align didn't make any difference for me,could phillip's?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355816 - 02/15/10 09:44 AM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


Only way to know for sure is to give it a go!

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355819 - 02/15/10 11:13 AM

Unregistered




can we attach a viedeo on the boards? i'm going to try.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Dana new
      #355820 - 02/15/10 11:20 AM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


Is this the first probiotic you have ever tried? Or have you tried other?

Are you a D, C, A? Or does it only help you with gas? I don't think align is doing anything for me except making me poor, financially.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Shawneric new
      #355821 - 02/15/10 11:21 AM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


Do you take a probiotic? If so, which one? Thanks.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Shawneric new
      #355828 - 02/15/10 12:20 PM
shawneric

Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 1738
Loc: Oregon

I should, but I always forget to take them. I am not right now.

There haven't been many isolated strains shown to be effective for some symptoms of IBS, but this is one strain. Some people are helped with gas with them and perhaps then pain.

Bifidobacterium infantis 35624

Its in Align®

http://www.aligngi.com/information-on-Align-probiotic-supplement

I also have a smaples of Digestive Advantage Irritable Bowel Syndrome

http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/prod_ibs.html

Probiotic info

http://iffgd.org/site/learning-center/video-corner/gutflora

audio

Interview with Y. Ringel, MD on Probiotics

http://www.med.unc.edu/medicine/fgidc/collateral/ringel.mp3

I can't really recommend one other then to say just try one and see if it helps. There are a lot of different kinds, like activa yogurt , which my wife who also has IBS eats once in a while, she can go back and forth and it does seem to help her some. The new phillips colon health that Dana just tried and liked perhaps.

The gut bacteria are different in different people and even where they live. Someone in oregon doesn't really have the same as in say florida, because it helps protect us to our own environments. Foods, and even stress can mess with it all and change them.

It could be worth trying though and is not likely to hurt anything.



--------------------
My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Shawneric new
      #355830 - 02/15/10 12:22 PM
shawneric

Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 1738
Loc: Oregon

I just read your taking align, how long have you been taking it?

--------------------
My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Shawneric new
      #355836 - 02/15/10 12:43 PM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


thanks for the info. I've been taking align for about 2 1/2 months now.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Shawneric new
      #355840 - 02/15/10 12:55 PM
shawneric

Reged: 01/30/03
Posts: 1738
Loc: Oregon

That is long enough, but sometimes its hard to tell if something is working somewhat or not.

There actually is a new study showing one strain to be unhelpful.

BMC Gastroenterol. 2010 Feb 10;10(1):16. [Epub ahead of print]

A candidate probiotic with unfavourable effects in subjects with irritable bowel syndrome: a randomised controlled trial.
Ligaarden SC, Axelsson L, Naterstad K, Lydersen S, Farup PG.

ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: Some probiotics have shown efficacy for patients with irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). Lactobacillus (L.) plantarum MF1298 was found to have the best in vitro probiotic properties of 22 strains of lactobacilli. The aim of this study was to investigate the symptomatic effect of L. plantarum MF1298 in subjects with IBS. Primary outcome was treatment preference and secondary outcomes were number of weeks with satisfactory relief of symptoms and IBS sum score. METHODS: The design was a randomised double blind placebo-controlled crossover trial. 16 subjects with IBS underwent two three-week periods of daily intake of one capsule of 1010 CFU L. plantarum MF 1298 or placebo separated by a four-week washout period. RESULTS: Thirteen participants (81%; 95% CI 57% to 93%; P = 0.012) preferred placebo to L. plantarum MF1298 treatment. The mean (SD) number of weeks with satisfactory relief of symptoms in the periods with L. plantarum MF1298 and placebo were 0.50 (0.89) and 1.44 (1.26), respectively (P = 0.006). The IBS sum score was 6.44 (1.81) in the period with L. plantarum MF1298 treatment compared with 5.35 (1.77) in the period with placebo (P = 0.010). With a clinically significant difference in the IBS sum score of 2 in disfavour of active treatment, the number needed to harm was 3.7, 95% CI 2.3 to 10.9. CONCLUSIONS: This trial shows for the first time an unfavourable effect on symptoms in subjects with IBS after intake of a potential probiotic. The trial registration number: Clinical trials NCT00355810.

PMID: 20144246 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

This one is the strain in digestive advantage

Methods Find Exp Clin Pharmacol. 2009 Dec;31(10):655-9.

Effects of a proprietary Bacillus coagulans preparation on symptoms of diarrhea-predominant irritable bowel syndrome.
Dolin BJ.

Accelovance Inc., Peoria, Illinois, USA. bjdolin@yahoo.com.

Symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) have a profound impact on quality of life for many patients and current treatments are sometimes unsatisfactory. This controlled pilot study was conducted to evaluate effects of the proprietary GanedenBC(30) (Bacillus coagulans GBI-30, 6086) probiotic on IBS symptoms, in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial including patients with diarrhea-predominant IBS (IBS-D). Patients were randomized to receive either B. coagulans GBI-30, 6086 or placebo once a day for 8 weeks. Patients filled out a quality-of-life questionnaire, and self-assessment diaries were provided to record stool count and consistency, symptom severity, and medication consumption. Of the 61 patients enrolled, six did not meet the inclusion criteria and three were lost to follow-up. Of the remaining 52 patients with IBS-D, the average number of bowel movements per day was significantly reduced for patients treated with B. coagulans GBI-30, 6086 when compared to placebo (P = 0.042). Large variability in baseline scores prevented the assessment of severity scores and quality of life. This small pilot study provides evidence that the proprietary B. coagulans GBI-30, 6086 probiotic is safe and effective for reducing daily bowel movements in patients with IBS-D. Copyright 2009 Prous Science, S.A.U. or its licensors. All rights reserved.

PMID: 20140275 [PubMed - in process]

Some of the studies are done by the actual companies just fyi



--------------------
My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com


Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355869 - 02/16/10 09:15 AM
MikeCA1870

Reged: 03/30/09
Posts: 110


Dana,

If the B. Bifidium the same as what is included in Align? If so, that's a substantial cost savings over Align even if the other stuff doesn't work.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355871 - 02/16/10 09:31 AM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


I have no idea, never tried Align or looked at its ingredients...

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355872 - 02/16/10 09:34 AM
Syl

Reged: 03/13/05
Posts: 5499
Loc: SK, CANADA

Align has a different species of Bifidobacterium. Align contains B. infantis while the Phillip's product contains B. bifidum and B longum.

There have been a couple of small trials where B. bifidum was contained in a cocktail of probiotics that show some positive results. However, B. bifidum and B. longum alone have not been clinically tested as far as I can tell.

--------------------
STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS

The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Dana new
      #355873 - 02/16/10 09:38 AM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


Apparently I'm "A" with a leaning towards "D," according to shawneric anyway.

I've tried Culturelle (gave me more gas maybe because of the inulin), Flora Five (seemed to make incomplete evacuation worse but I don't know why), Floragen (seemed to help everything in general but I don't like having to take it on an empty stomach), and cheap Walgreen's generic acidopholus, which seemed to help everything a few years ago but doesn't seem to do much now.

Gas is the most obvious symptom the Colon Health has helped. I cannot say for certain about my "going" habits, since I've also been on acacia for awhile and am in the middle of the hypnotherapy program. I can say for certain it's helping my gas, though, because just a few days after taking it I had a dramatic reduction in it.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Dana new
      #355874 - 02/16/10 09:53 AM

Unregistered




do you drink marshmellow root tea? I thought it could help acid reflux and perhaps my ibs. I heard ibs can affect a person throat to anus and this is true for me,burping up food particles or nasty stuff and rotten burps its like my ibs has a ring of irritants and until each one is taken care of I will continue to have those uncomfortable noises/feelings and so much incomplete evacuation and ibs issues. wondering if u think marshmellow root is really gentle. http://www.nutrasanus.com/marsh-mallow.html

http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Answer-Alcohol-Free-Marshmallow-Root-Extract how about something like that?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Phillips' Colon Health probiotic supplement new
      #355886 - 02/16/10 06:59 PM

Unregistered




I bought some today it was 13 something. I hope it works,I too felt align was a waste of money

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: Dana new
      #355974 - 02/18/10 09:43 PM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


I think maybe you drink too much tea already aperson, in my humble opinion... 12 cups a day, wow! Try to drink more water and less tea maybe. We have a PUR water filter on our kitchen faucet to filter out the chlorine and other harmful substances; I know you mentioned your water tastes like chlorine.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

tea vs water new
      #355987 - 02/19/10 06:09 PM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


Wouldn't the tea, which contains water, be just as good as water?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #355988 - 02/19/10 07:57 PM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


No.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #355995 - 02/20/10 01:31 PM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


I don't know that you are right about this. Herbal tea contains water and herbs, that's it. It doesn't have caffeine, has no diuretic effect....it's just flavored water, right?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #355996 - 02/20/10 04:07 PM
Allisonmary

Reged: 01/03/04
Posts: 533


Definetely not the same as water. Tea helps keep you hydrated, but adding herbs to water completely changes the water. There are many herbs that have a diuretic effect. Don't forget that herbs are actual used for medicinal purposes so over doing any herbal tea that you don't need or is contraindicated by your condition (like if you have too much heat and you are drinking too much fennel or ginger herbs) This will definetely affect you. Also, fennel is known for its lubricating and moistening properties so if you seem to have a lot of mucus and fluid buildup in your digestive system, fennel may make this worse.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #355997 - 02/20/10 04:10 PM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


Wrong.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #356020 - 02/22/10 07:45 AM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


Well, it would help me to understand your position if you gave some feedback or explanation to your answer. I hope to ask a dietician. Or, I wish others would explain this to me. I also consume mostly herbal tea as I detest water also. I'm really trying to understand why.

Thank you

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #356021 - 02/22/10 07:46 AM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


thank you, but this doesn't really make sense to me. I do appreciate your feedback and will have to look into this more.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #356027 - 02/22/10 10:02 AM
DanaDivine

Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 95


"More is not better." Herbal tea acts as a diuretic, whether it contains caffeine or not, so you are not really properly hydrating yourself first of all, and second of all may be overwhelming your body with too much of a good thing.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #356808 - 03/19/10 06:44 AM
Cyndy

Reged: 03/05/05
Posts: 1301


How can herbal tea act as a diuretic. I never heard this before. Coffee, yes, but herbal tea? All flavors? Even chamomille and peppermint?

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Re: tea vs water new
      #356811 - 03/19/10 07:14 AM
Allisonmary

Reged: 01/03/04
Posts: 533


Some herbs can be a diuretic but definetely not all. Some may actually do the opposite. Why dont you get a book about different herbs, it explains what they do. Just remember that the amount of herbs you are getting in a tea isn't all that much so usually you would have to be drinking a good amount of the tea. Too much chamomile tea or other flowery teas actually may cause constipation. If there is a specific tea that you like thats probably a sign that its good for you. I wouldn't just drink a lot of peppermint tea tho cause you hear its good for digestion becuase for some people it may actually not be or may not be some of the time. For some, ginger may be a better choice. Sometimes ginger may be good in the mornings and peppermint at night. You have to see how the herbs work fo you. If you have something with spices for dinner, it may be better to have some cooling peppermint tea rather than ginger tea which has the same type of warming properties as the spices in your meal.

Print     Remind Me     Notify Moderator    

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | >> (show all)

Extra information
0 registered and 3773 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Heather 

Print Thread

Permissions
      You cannot post until you login
      You cannot reply until you login
      HTML is enabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 16775

Jump to

| Privacy statement Help for IBS Home

*
UBB.threads™ 6.2


HelpForIBS.com BBB Business Review