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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366595 - 12/23/11 08:37 AM
shelgirl

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Thanks...will check that link out. Yes, doctors have been absolutely no help unfortunately.

It's just very confusing. Other than the banana, the only other fiber I've been eating is some cooked carrots...and I thought they were ok for me too...It always seems like I'm "back to square one" again

Do you think a fruit/veggie can be ok for awhile and then suddenly cause problems? It seems like there are so many variables...so frustrating.

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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366596 - 12/23/11 08:44 AM
Syl

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I eat well cooked peeled carrots with no problems. I might be helpful if you listed meals and snacks you have eaten in the past 2-3 days. It might give us some clues to give you some advice.

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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366597 - 12/23/11 10:13 AM
shelgirl

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Loc: Wisconsin

I pretty much eat the same thing everyday.

Breakfast: rice krispies with a whole banana cut up in cereal with a little coconut or almond milk...sometimes I will eat cream of rice cereal.

Lunch: Soup that I make....broth from turkey or chicken, peeled, well cooked carrots(maybe 1/2 cup) and turkey or chicken cut up. 2-3 slices of gluten free bread toasted, sometimes I will put a little olive oil on the toast otherwise just plain. I have tried nitrate free lunch meat on bread but that seems to give me major gas so quit that.

Dinner: Peeled potatoes, chicken, turkey or fish...sometimes white rice or pasta in place of potatoes.

Snacks: Rice crackers, coconut milk yogurt, baked chips

I take an Enzymatic Therapy regular probiotic (I think it just is acidophilus), also a B12 and a multi mineral before bed. I also take Complegest enzyme with each meal. I have tried apple cider vinegar in water also on occasion for digestion.

I know the coconut milk/yogurt is higher in fat but I have been eating it for quite awhile and up till now didn't seem to cause me any problems? The bananas vary of course...sometimes more ripe than not depending on how they ripen...also size sometimes small, sometimes larger. Sometimes I will use canned julienne cut carrots if I don't have time to cook regular carrots. The only other thing I question is the broth...I cook the chicken or turkey with water to make the broth...wondering about the fat content in that?

After awhile I swear I drive myself half crazy trying to figure this all out!

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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366598 - 12/23/11 11:03 AM
Syl

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Loc: SK, CANADA

A couple of questions.

What brand is the rice krispies?

Are the rice crackers made from brown rice?

Afer you make the broth do you put in the fridge/freezer, let the fat congeal and then remove for the top?

I use low fat coconut milk with no ill effects. Generally speaking you should be able to handle about 20-25% of calories in the form of fats/oils.

I have found the canned carrots are not very well cooked - they are still quite crunchy. Do you cook then until soft?

Have you tried the GUT directed hypnotherapy CDs?

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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366599 - 12/23/11 04:29 PM
shelgirl

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Rice crispies are Erewhon brand and yes made of brown rice but very low fiber. Would just the fact that they are brown rice be an issue?

The crackers(Blue Diamond nut thins) just say rice flour, but, have almonds I think in them.

I have not cooked the canned carrots....that might be an issue.

Most often I try to take the top layer of fat off the broth. I've noticed though that sometimes there is a slight gel consistency to the broth (I'm assuming that is from fat too?).

I haven't tried the hypnotherapy but that too is a great idea. As always, thanks for your suggestions.

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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366600 - 12/24/11 06:26 AM
Syl

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Loc: SK, CANADA

The brown rice in the rice cripies can be a problem. Brown rice is a whole grain cereal. Try a plain white rice cereal or a white rice porridge but check the ingredients to make sure it doesn't contain high fructose corn syrup. Have you tried regular oatmeal?

Blue Diamond nut thins have about 3.5% fiber of which almonds add considerably to the insoluble fiber content.

The gel in the broth is ok. It isn't fat. The fat floats on the top so it can be skimmed off.

Many people have good success with the hypno CDs.


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Re: Additional question to 'IBS"? new
      #366602 - 12/24/11 12:01 PM
shelgirl

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Loc: Wisconsin

Oatmeal has always been a trigger for me unfortunately. Will have to check out plain rice cereals. Thanks again.

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only rolled oats! new
      #366604 - 12/26/11 11:18 PM
Susie1985

Reged: 05/04/11
Posts: 211


I think it really comes down to the individual, but for me excess IF is not so much a problem when it comes from veggies, but usually gives me spasms the kind Syl described when it comes from wholegrains. Oatmeal I tolerate really well, but it can't be wholegrain oats! Only rolled oats, with around 8g fibre per 100g. A lot of porridge has the bran in it. Even when the package indicates that it's still the same amount of IF and SF apparently, I still have D and pain. So it should not be wholegrain oats but rolled oats.

I get a lot of pain from too much fat, although that comes in bouts instead of it being a dull pain, it is extremely sharp and acute. Buscopan helps me there: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100000395.html

Hot peppermint tea reduces the bloating beautifully. Actually the only thing that really works for the bloating. Fennel tea does nothing for me. Peppermint capsules I can't take cos my mouth tastes pepperminty the entire day afterwards no matter how I take it.

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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)

before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010


FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml


[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]

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