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DOES THIS DIET REALLY WORK!!
      #245396 - 02/10/06 06:24 AM
LivinginWA

Reged: 01/22/06
Posts: 18
Loc: Western Australia

I live in Australia and have ordered the books from heathers website, the books havent arrived yet, though looking at a lot of the posts I am reading a lot about people who are doing the diet with very little results....the diet looks very very bland and I am quite concerned that I wont be able to stick to it, am wondering if it is worth it...if Im going to stay sick with daily diarrohea, then I might as well do it in style and enjoy yummy food....also what else can you drink on heathers diet other than herbal teas and water?? - also could someone tell me please is it okay to just take psyllium as purchased from the supermarket or does it have to be in powdered form?? thanks...any responses would be appreciated...have had another day from diarrohea hell...have all of my hopes pinned on this diet,

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Re: DOES THIS DIET REALLY WORK!! new
      #245401 - 02/10/06 06:45 AM
Johnny T. Reb

Reged: 07/09/05
Posts: 987
Loc: Lake Linden, Mich in the U.P. IBS-C

Hi Western Aussie, Yes, the strict "EFI" diet does not work
for some of which I am one. However, a somewhat modified
version of it seems to be working for me. Also, for the most
part, the people for which it doesn't work for are C's. For
people with D like you, it has been highly successful!!!
Additionally, it's not really bland either. You'll see when
you get Heather's EFI book. By the way, have you tried
taking Immodium? If not, start taking at least one daily,
it should help your daily D hell. Most D's swear by it.
I'm sure there will be D's giving you more and better sugg-
estions than I. Hope this helps. -Bob

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Re: DOES THIS DIET REALLY WORK!! new
      #245417 - 02/10/06 07:45 AM
Sandyg

Reged: 09/13/04
Posts: 403


Hi,

I have thought like you and still do sometimes. If I'm going to go 10x a day anyway, I might as well be eating what I want! But I have found from experience, it does get better when you try to stay on the diet. It's more a lifestyle change than just a diet. You can modify just about anything you eat and enjoy it too. I love pizza, so I have bought Amy's vegan veggies only pizza or the one with soy cheese. They really aren't that bad, the veggie one is yummy. My husband thinks so too. I have given up coffee whieh I LOVED and drink teas that are just as satisfying to me. I just gave up dairy and have found great substitutes, Rice milk, soy,etc. I still have my days when I have D or go a lot but it has gotten better and I know I will continue to get better.

I think Bob's advice about taking an Immodium or two is good too. It helps with the urgency and decreases the volume. It helps on the road to stability.

This board is great too for all kinds of advice!
Sandy

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This is a long response...be warned new
      #245421 - 02/10/06 08:08 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

Well, I've been debating about whether or not I should be one to respond to this post. I'm not doing well and I've been on the diet for over a year. (I'm IBS-C though, which takes more time....how much more, who knows).

I don't think you can go on how others have or have not been helped by the diet until you actually try it. Why not just make a commitment to stick to it for a time....you have nothing to lose.

I eat very bland, although many of the recipes are very "spicy". If you buy the cookbook or read some of the recipes you will see some very non-bland foods! I just cannot handle them...so I stick to bland food and rely on simple, easy to digest herbs for flavoring. Or add chicken broth to rice and/or make a gravy out of in order to give more flavor to the food. I'm used to eating bland and just trying to enjoy the natural food taste itself. They didn't have soda and all the complicated cooking back in the old days...so I guess I figure if it was okay for them, it's okay for me! Especially if it might help reduce some of the pain (I don't know if it does or it doesn't, but I'm not taking any chances).

I tend to think that this diet works better for D folks...but I don't think there are any statistics to prove it...so, in my opinion, you being a D gives you a better chance. It has worked for many C folks...just not me. The D's seem to do better if they stick to the strict rules, why C's need more tweaking with IF and such.

As far as the psyllium capsules, they are fine to take. It doesn't have to be the powder. But that is not a very popular SFS for most people. It contains a little IF, so I think you might be better with a 100% soluble fiber supplement.

I only drink water and herbal teas. I missed the soda and coffee at first, but now I can't look at them without feeling pain...so I don't want them. I tried to drink coffee once and through the cup out because it wasn't worth it to me....nothing tastes better than feeling better (even if I still don't....I probably really don't stand a chance if I chose to drink soda or fruit juices).

I have a friend who is a D person and she was on this web site for over a year and it didn't help her. She did decide to leave and just eat what she wanted because she had D no matter how she ate. She didn't see the purpose of restricting her coffee and foods if she was still going to have D and pain. She still has is the symptoms, but she is happier eating the foods she likes.

Although the diet has not helped me yet...after over a year, I have chosen not to give up on it yet. Bev (another poster) said it took her 3 years to get better. So, I'm praying that one day, I will feel some degree of relief. Not perfect...but better. So far, I have not felt one degree better, my symptoms are no better, and I have given up so many of my favorite foods. Why do I continue to do the diet? Because I'm scared if I don't, I'll never feel better and I don't want to lose the year and 1/2 I've already invested in this diet if I would have to start over again. It's the only hope I have left...so to give that up is to surrender to this. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if I just ate what I wanted I would be less focused on my IBS and I would have less anxiety over reading every ingredient in every food before eating it. I could go out to dinner and enjoy a normal Thanksgiving dinner with dressing and gravy. Yummy. But, as of today....I can't give up yet. Maybe I'm making the wrong decision and I should just move on to something else. I often wonder why I keep eating a diet that isn't helping me. I often feel stupid for continuing to follow a diet that hasn't helped instead of pursuing other things that might help. But then I read a post by another IBS-C person who has had good results with the diet and it gives me hope again, and I continue on.

Sorry this is so long. I just know how you feel...and often, very often, question myself with the same thoughts and reasoning.

Perhaps one day I will give this diet up. I'm sort of brainwashed into it now! It's natural way of eating for me. I'm scared NOT to eat this way...so maybe the anxiety over not eating this diet would cause worse IBS symptoms.

Okay, I'll stop my rambling. Perhaps this entry belongs in a personal journal instead of on the boards.

Not sure I helped (probably not) but your post really hit home with me. Please keep me updated on if you decide to try the diet, and if you have any success with it. Or if you choose to move on.

No, it doesn't seem to work for everyone. But you might be one it does work for...and the only way to know is to try it...with a full commitment and no cheating.

Good luck...and sorry so long!

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Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!

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      #245428 - 02/10/06 08:53 AM
lalala

Reged: 02/14/05
Posts: 2634


Hi! Well, this diet has worked for me, but it only worked when I stopped cheating; I would start feeling better so I'd have some pop or something with dairy in it and that would set me back. Also, a mistake a lot of people make, myself included, is staying on the Breaking the Cycle diet for too long. This is the very bland, SF only diet that you start with, which you're only supposed to do for a few days. Make sure to start incorporating protein and IF or else you'll just feel ill, grumpy, and hungry.

Also, as someone pointed out, this is a lifestyle change (in addition to a diet that regulates your digestive tract, you work on stress management, exercise, etc, to minimize your symptoms). It's also fine to take loperamide/imodium as needed and as a preventive while you're trying to get stable.

Instead of reading through the posts, I would read through the information on the IBS Diet & Recipe section on the main website. A lot of this is the same information you'll find in the books.

Psyllium is a really harsh SFS that will cause gas and bloating, so I would avoid that. Can you get Benefiber (guar gum) in Australia? Try that, or try Heather's Acacia.

I hope the diet works for you. A lot of people with D seem to have had good results. Take care!

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      #245432 - 02/10/06 09:01 AM
Dajara

Reged: 12/01/05
Posts: 347
Loc: Medicine Hat. AB. CAN

I know this sounds stupid and all but peppermint tea has really helped me. I can eat pizza and chocolate without getting a d attack, and even really stressful situations which used to send me to the bathroom for hours, is only maybe a little stomach discomfort and thats it..
I am a sprite addict and it hasn't caused me any issues so far, and I go through about two 2L/week.. I find that even if I add say, pretzels as an apetizer before a meal that even helps.. So it's not all bad.. Peppermint tea is somewhat of an aqquired taste, but sugar makes it much better.. hope this helps..

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      #245435 - 02/10/06 09:07 AM
MCV

Reged: 01/04/05
Posts: 740
Loc: Manchester, NH

I admire you, Beth. You are such a strong person and you are very courageous. This post is excellent!!!

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Worked like a charm for me (m) new
      #245439 - 02/10/06 09:13 AM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
Posts: 4490
Loc: West Orange, NJ (IBS-D)

I had IBS-D about as bad a D gets. It took me about a week on Heather's diet to start to feel some relief, three months to feel darn good, and 6 months to feel pretty much normal. I finally felt so great, I started eating way too far off the Diet and set myself back, so I definitely agree with the "don't cheat" advice.

I took Acacia as my SFS. Heather's diet helped with the cramps and horrible urgency, but I think the Acacia helped a lot with frequency. I started with 1/4 tsp of Acacia per day and worked my way up to 8 teaspoons a day and lots of fluid.

Immodium is a definite help and I have Donnatol for bad attacks. (I hadn't had a bad attack in months before I fell off the wagon.)

I would say absolutely try the Diet and try it straight down the line. It's well worth it.

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wow, I can't believe you read through the whole thing new
      #245440 - 02/10/06 09:14 AM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

I was thinking about deleting it because I felt embarrassed after I posted it.

Thanks...but I'm not one to be admired, believe me. I'm an IBS flunky. And I often think about chucking the whole thing and giving up.

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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!

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wonderful, honest post new
      #245448 - 02/10/06 09:55 AM
Maile

Reged: 01/30/06
Posts: 17
Loc: California

Beth, thank you for that post. I've only been on this diet for a few months (but I've been vegan for several years), and I've had pretty good results. But some days I get attacks no matter what I do, and on those days I want to quit. I think I may just print out your post to read on those days. Sorry if that sounds sappy, but it's a nice reminder to keep going. Anyway...

Have you done the hypnotherapy cds?


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